As I recall, it was at least able to read standard controls, perhaps via MSAA--not sure. Jamal -----Original Message----- From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Naama Erez Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:44 PM To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information Hi Jamal, Thanks for the info, I've never tried to work with Window Eyes, but that sounds interesting... But are you saying it could also actually read in safe mode, or just get to the desktop in safe mode? Thanks, Naama ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information >I have not tried with Windows 2000 or XP, but I recall that Window-Eyes > could be activated with a desktop shortcut hot key in safe mode under > Windows 9X, whereas JAWS could not. > > Jamal > > -----Original Message----- > From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tink Watson > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:35 AM > To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information > > > Naama, > > This isn't really my field, but I suspect it would be difficult to > achieve this. Safe mode works by prohibiting drivers from loading, > whether > sound drivers, technology or application specific drivers. Without these > I > imagine it would be tricky, even impossible to get a screen reader > loaded > and running. > > It certainly would be nice though, the inability to access the bios, > > safe mode and other precursor environments is one of the biggest > irritations > of using a screen reader. > > Tink. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Naama Erez" <diva2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:20 AM > Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information > > >> Just wondering, and that can be because my knowledge about this is >> limited, is there any type of screen reader, or any possibility for a >> screen reader to operate in safe mode? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:18 PM >> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information >> >> >>> Hi Juan, >>> >>> As far as I know, Beth Mynat's and Keith Edward's paper is the only > one >>> on >>> how screen readers work. There's been various ones written on screen > >>> reader >>> design, such as a comparison paper written by Beth Mynat et al in > 1994, >>> which you can download from the publications section of the Everyday >>> Computing Lab's website, which is part of the main GA Tech site. > There's >>> also been work done by Alistair Edwards at the University of York, in > the >>> UK, Steve Brewster from the University of Glasgow, in the UK, various > >>> people >>> at the University of Toronto, in Canada, but these have mainly > focused on >>> design rather than implementation. I did hear that Prof. Gary Bishop > at >>> the >>> University of North Carolina was developing a new type of screen > reader, >>> based more around communication with the user, and any information on > >>> this >>> will likely be on the UNC web site at: >>> http://cs.unc.edu/research/assist >>> >>> Will >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@xxxxxxx> >>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:17 AM >>> Subject: [ossrp-control] screen reading information >>> >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> First I am glad to say that a project of this kind has finally > started. >>> I've discussed this type of project with other people, and have > written >>> papers and such for my course work at the univercity, on the > research >>> and >>> development of a free or extremely low cost screen reading solution. >>>> >>>> I have quite a bit of coding background, but none in the screen > reading >>> area. >>>> >>>> I have downloaded the paper written by: Mynatt, E.D., and Edwards, > W.K. >>> (1992). " Mapping guis to auditory Interfaces, but I would like to > know >>> if >>> anyone has any other information on screen reading development, > consepts, >>> theory, etc? >>>> >>>> Again, I am glad OSAT has started, and I hope to help as much as I > can >>>> in >>> the future. 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