[ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information

Will,
Thanks... Like I said before, that's what I thought, but still, perhaps for those who work with computers on a professional level, wouldn't that be helpful? Still, I understand the difficulties and the dangers, and thanks for taking the time to explain them, because I didn't know all that stuff, and now I have a better understanding of what safe mode actually is. Would the same hold true when the computer gets into a "scan disk" mode after a not-so-great shut down?
Thanks,
Naama
----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information


Hi Naama ,

I think operating in safe mode would be one of those things that would be
very difficult to achieve at the moment. Windows has two parts to it: user
mode and kernel mode. Kernel mode is where all the technical bits happen,
such as all the interactions with various hardware, such as sound cards. In
safe mode, Windows doesn't load all the things that are usually found in the
Kernel, making it very difficult for all but activities to take place with a
limited set of hardware, namely the monitor, keyboard, certain types of
mouse, and disk drives. So, whilst it's possible for a screen reader to run
in safe mode, providing it doesn't want to inspect what's being drawn to the
screen, the difficulty is in interacting with the hardware to obtain either
speech or Braille output.

It's not impossible, but would be very difficult and dangerous, as the
notorious Blue Screen can happen very easily in Kernel mode.

Will
----- Original Message ----- From: "Naama Erez" <diva2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:20 AM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information


Just wondering, and that can be because my knowledge about this is
limited,
is there any type of screen reader, or any possibility for a screen reader
to operate in safe mode?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:18 PM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information


> Hi Juan,
>
> As far as I know, Beth Mynat's and Keith Edward's paper is the only one
on 
> how screen readers work.  There's been various ones written on screen
> reader
> design, such as a comparison paper written by Beth Mynat et al in 1994,
> which you can download from the publications section of the Everyday
> Computing Lab's website, which is part of the main GA Tech site.
There's
> also been work done by Alistair Edwards at the University of York, in
the 
> UK, Steve Brewster from the University of Glasgow, in the UK, various
> people
> at the University of Toronto, in Canada, but these have mainly focused
on
> design rather than implementation. I did hear that Prof. Gary Bishop > at
> the
> University of North Carolina was developing a new type of screen > reader,
> based more around communication with the user, and any information on
this
> will likely be on the UNC web site at:
> http://cs.unc.edu/research/assist
>
> Will
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:17 AM
> Subject: [ossrp-control] screen reading information
>
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> First I am glad to say that a project of this kind has finally >> started.
> I've discussed this type of project with other people, and have written
> papers and such for my course work at the univercity, on the research
and
> development of a free or extremely low cost screen reading solution.
>>
>> I have quite a bit of coding background, but none in the screen >> reading
> area.
>>
>> I have downloaded the paper written by: Mynatt, E.D., and Edwards, >> W.K.
> (1992). " Mapping guis to auditory Interfaces, but I would like to know
if
> anyone has any other information on screen reading development,
consepts, 
> theory, etc?
>>
>> Again, I am glad OSAT has started, and I hope to help as much as I can
in 
> the future.  Thanks
>>
>> Juan Hernandez
>> San Diego, California
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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