Yes, this is right. I think it ws made by papenmeier but I am not sure about that. But in general it plugged directly into the video card, with a pass-through for the monitor. But in the days of DOS you could just read the entire screen including the bios. In Linux you could read all startup messages from turning the computer off till shtting it down. Obviously this didn't work with graphical systems like Windows. Saqib Original Message: ----------------- From: Naama Erez diva2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:58:15 +0200 To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information Thanks Tink, that's what I thought... I think I heard somewhere that there used to be a braille display that could read the bios, is this true? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information > Naama, > > This isn't really my field, but I suspect it would be difficult to > achieve this. Safe mode works by prohibiting drivers from loading, whether > sound drivers, technology or application specific drivers. Without these I > imagine it would be tricky, even impossible to get a screen reader loaded > and running. > > It certainly would be nice though, the inability to access the bios, > safe mode and other precursor environments is one of the biggest > irritations of using a screen reader. > > Tink. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Naama Erez" <diva2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:20 AM > Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information > > >> Just wondering, and that can be because my knowledge about this is >> limited, is there any type of screen reader, or any possibility for a >> screen reader to operate in safe mode? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:18 PM >> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information >> >> >>> Hi Juan, >>> >>> As far as I know, Beth Mynat's and Keith Edward's paper is the only one >>> on >>> how screen readers work. There's been various ones written on screen >>> reader >>> design, such as a comparison paper written by Beth Mynat et al in 1994, >>> which you can download from the publications section of the Everyday >>> Computing Lab's website, which is part of the main GA Tech site. >>> There's >>> also been work done by Alistair Edwards at the University of York, in >>> the >>> UK, Steve Brewster from the University of Glasgow, in the UK, various >>> people >>> at the University of Toronto, in Canada, but these have mainly focused >>> on >>> design rather than implementation. I did hear that Prof. Gary Bishop at >>> the >>> University of North Carolina was developing a new type of screen reader, >>> based more around communication with the user, and any information on >>> this >>> will likely be on the UNC web site at: >>> http://cs.unc.edu/research/assist >>> >>> Will >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@xxxxxxx> >>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:17 AM >>> Subject: [ossrp-control] screen reading information >>> >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> First I am glad to say that a project of this kind has finally started. >>> I've discussed this type of project with other people, and have written >>> papers and such for my course work at the univercity, on the research >>> and >>> development of a free or extremely low cost screen reading solution. >>>> >>>> I have quite a bit of coding background, but none in the screen reading >>> area. >>>> >>>> I have downloaded the paper written by: Mynatt, E.D., and Edwards, W.K. >>> (1992). " Mapping guis to auditory Interfaces, but I would like to know >>> if >>> anyone has any other information on screen reading development, >>> consepts, >>> theory, etc? >>>> >>>> Again, I am glad OSAT has started, and I hope to help as much as I can >>>> in >>> the future. 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