[ossrp-control] Re: What Is A Screen Reader?
- From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:51:42 +0100
Hi,
I agree, and it will be added to the list of features.
Will
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From: "Jamal Mazrui" <Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx>
To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:53 PM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: What Is A Screen Reader?
It seems that a lot of customization capability, short of script coding,
could be provided by a keyboard macro recorder that captures both
application and screen reader keys, and has the ability to turn
automatic verbalizations on and off, e.g., via a toggle key. The macro
could silently perform desired navigation using application keys with
speech off, and read desired information using screen reader keys with
speech on.
Jamal
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From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lant
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:14 PM
To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: What Is A Screen Reader?
Hi,
This is also my preferred approach. I've spoken on other lists about my
favourite screen reader at the time, which provided macro driven
customisation, instead of scripted configuration. Thus, in order to
change
the way the screen reader behaved, you simply started the macro
recording
mode, showed the screen reader what you wanted it to do, and then
assigned
that to either a keystroke or a portion of the screen to be monitored
for
changes etc.
Thus, in the case of the pay claim screen I mentioned before, you could
have
the screen reader provide a Teach key which, when pressed, would put the
screen reader into a mode where it will give information about what's on
the
screen, and how it is grouped and attributed. The user could then go
through this, and effectively point out to the screen reader what items
they
want to be told about, and which ones they want to ignore. They could
assign groups of items to keystrokes for reading, or assign them to be
spoken automatically when certain screen changes occur. By the end of
this
process, or through an iterative process over time, the user would thus
teach the screen reader how to present and manage the information being
portrayed.
Once completed, the next time the user enters the pay claim screen, the
screen reader would simply announce the name of the employee, and then
read
the information in the claimed hours box, while placing the insertion
pointer in the charge codes pane ready for input. Since sighted people
often flick visually back and forth between information displayed and
data
they are inputting, the screen reader could also be trained to read
information from another part of the screen, even though your focus is
in
the input area. The result is much faster operation of a screen which
would
otherwise require either manual browsing for the read-only data, or
scripting in a fairly human-unfriendly language to provide what is
otherwise
pretty basic instruction.
All the best,
David
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From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Parente
Sent: 06 May 2005 04:03
To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: What Is A Screen Reader?
Yes, Bryan. This is exactly what I was talking about as being the
middle-ground between a screen reader that tries to analyze what's on
the screen all on its own and on that requires very low level scripts to
improve usability.
I'm not a JAWS user, but it's my understanding that it has some very
basic support for this now in that you can assign labels to object on
web pages or in GUIs. I've also heard it doesn't work too well yet. Can
anyone confirm or deny?
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It seems that a lot of customization capability, short of script coding, could be provided by a keyboard macro recorder that captures both application and screen reader keys, and has the ability to turn automatic verbalizations on and off, e.g., via a toggle key. The macro could silently perform desired navigation using application keys with speech off, and read desired information using screen reader keys with speech on.
-----Original Message----- From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lant Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:14 PM To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: What Is A Screen Reader?
Hi,
-----Original Message----- From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Parente Sent: 06 May 2005 04:03 To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: What Is A Screen Reader?
Yes, Bryan. This is exactly what I was talking about as being the middle-ground between a screen reader that tries to analyze what's on the screen all on its own and on that requires very low level scripts to
- [ossrp-control] Re: What Is A Screen Reader?
- From: Jamal Mazrui