[ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?

Well... I don't guarantee we wouldn't still come and kick your door down =
for
the fun of it if you did... But it shouldn't be necessary. <grin>

All the best,

David


-----Original Message-----
From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Norman
Sent: 24 April 2005 04:44
To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?


Good. I am not avery good programmer (just learning), and I had vissions =
of=20
writing something, and then having you guys kick my doors down because =
I'd=20
screwed up the project.

Cheers for the info,

Chris Norman
<!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "David Lant" <david.lant1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?


> Hi Chris,
>
> Any decent source control product worth its salt also includes proper=20
> version control.  If, at any time, a team member screws up big time,=20
> the whole or part of the project can be rolled back to a previous=20
> version.
>
> All the best,
>
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Norman
> Sent: 24 April 2005 04:35
> To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>
>
> Oh right.
>
> Do you think there would be any benefit in keeping a copy of any=20
> source =3D code
>
> at every stage somewhere? Because people (my self for example LMAO!)=20
> are =3D
>
> bound to submit code that has bugs in it, or maybe take out portions=20
> of =3D code
>
> because they think it's redundant or whatever, any of these problems =
=3D=20
> could=3D20 be catastrophic for the project.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris Norman
> <!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:16 PM
> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> It's not really security that's a concern.  Source code=20
>> repositories=3D20 give you some useful features for managing the =
source=20
>> code when=3D20 multiple people are working on it.  For example, it=20
>> keeps a master=3D20 copy of the source code. When people submit their =

>> updated copies it=3D20 alters the master copy, and if someone submits =
a=20
>> copy where someone=3D20 has already submitted a change to that line =
of=20
>> code, it will flag it up and ask them to manually edit the =3D
> master
>> copy to take into account both changes.  So, a source code=20
>> repository=3D20 makes working with the source code in a project where =

>> more than one person =3D
> is
>> working on it a manageable task.  There's also other great features =
=3D
> about
>> using one.  It's something you don't really think about until you =3D
> start to
>> work on projects where there's more than one person.
>>
>> In the worst case, we can have the informational web site on one=3D20 =

>> server, maybe even a shared hosting account, and use Source Forge=20
>> for=3D20 things like CVS, FTP downloads, bug tracking, etc.
>>
>> Will
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Norman" <chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:38 PM
>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>>
>>
>>> Ok mate, well give me a shout when you've found one (if you =
still=3D20=20
>>> need my help).
>>>
>>> Could the source code not just be banged on an FTP under the=20
>>> domain?=3D20 I
>> don't
>>> know how secure that kind of thing is, although I imagine after=20
>>> it's=3D20 password protected, you'd be prety safe.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Chris Norman
>>> <!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:21 PM
>>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to=20
>>> go?
>>>
>>>
>>> > Thanks for the offer Chris.
>>> >
>>> > At the moment, we have a domain name registered, but no server=20
>>> > to=3D20 associate it with.  The problem is, that we're likely to=20
>>> > need a=3D20 dedicated server,
>> or
>>> > at least a good portion of a dedicated web server, as we would=20
>>> > need =3D
>
>>> > not only a web site, but source code repositories, such as CVS,=20
>>> > Sub =3D
>
>>> > Version,
>> etc.,
>>> > a
>>> > bug tracker and possibly a requirements management package as=20
>>> > well. So, we
>>> > have pretty complex requirements for a web server, although I =
think =3D
> I
>> know
>>> > somewhere where I could get this for free.
>>> >
>>> > So, for the moment we're just trying to find a server to put it=20
>>> > all =3D
>
>>> > on, but your help would be appreciated in creating a web site=20
>>> > once=3D20 we've found
>> the
>>> > server.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Will
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Chris Norman" <chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:02 PM
>>> > Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to=20
>>> > =3D
> go?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Will, would it be benefitial for me to set up a website for this
>> project?
>>> >>
>>> >> I can get a free domain at www.freewebpage.org/ (granted a =
sub=3D20=20
>>> >> domain but...), if you like, I don't know what else I can do=20
>>> >> to=3D20 help you, but that is one of the things, and as soon as I =

>>> >> have=3D20 learned c++ (don't hold
>> your
>>> >> breath, we need you LOL), I'll be able to help a lot more.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anything else I can do, give me a shout.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris Norman
>>> >> <!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Richard Thomas" <rthomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:56 PM
>>> >> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to =

>>> >> =3D
> go?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi Travis;
>>> >>> So you're involved in this too?  Not bad, will and you =
should=3D20=20
>>> >>> bring
>> some
>>> >>> fine technical and ergonomic design to the project. If you are=20
>>> >>> serious about
>>> >>> something of a large scale, and what I've heard so far =
indicates=3D20
>>> >>> that,
>>> >>> bring
>>> >>> in someone with business background, a legal advisor and perhaps =
=3D
> a=3D20
>>> >>> CPA
>>> >>> if
>>> >>> one will donate a little time to help you set up the nuts and =
=3D
> bolts.
>>> >>> This
>>> >>> will be the glue that will hold the whole thing together when =
=3D
> times
>>> >>> require
>>> >>> it so the project will continue despite individual conflicts =3D
> which
>> will
>>> >>> crop
>>> >>> up from time to time.  It will also take care of any questions=20
>>> >>> of =3D
>
>>> >>> proprietary considerations, Government reporting requirements=20
>>> >>> and =3D
>
>>> >>> questions of management responsibilities.  If you just want=20
>>> >>> to=3D20 write a program
>> or
>>> >>> two
>>> >>> you won't need to do this of course but the project will =
fall=3D20=20
>>> >>> apart within a year or two at most.  A formal structure is the=20
>>> >>> glue, as I =3D
> mentioned,
>>> >>> which
>>> >>> will bind everyone together over time.  That's why companies=20
>>> >>> like =3D
>
>>> >>> J&J,
>>> >>> Microsoft, RedHat,  et. al. become incorporated.  It's not just=20
>>> >>> =3D
> that
>>> >>> they
>>> >>> want to float stock but remain in business after the initial =3D
> group
>> leavs
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> company.  As a company the project will take on a life of=20
>>> >>> it's=3D20 own and
>>> >>> become it's own individual entity with it's own lifespan =3D
> depending on
>>> >>> how
>>> >>> it
>>> >>> fulfils the needs of it's clients.  This is perhaps even more
>> necessary
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> a non-profit company as there will not likely be full time,=20
>>> >>> long=3D20 term folks in the key positions to maintain a constant =

>>> >>> and=3D20 consistant hand on the reigns.  Take a look at the =
MySql=20
>>> >>> site.  That is what you are =3D
> headed
>> for
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> spending some time and effort up front will avoid mistakes.=20
>>> >>> Ps.=3D20 forgive my spelling, I'm not good at it and never have=20
>>> >>> been and I =3D
>
>>> >>> don't have MS Word anymore to help me.
>>> >>> Rick of Farmington Mich. USA
>>> >>> Rick of Farmington Mich. USA
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>> >>> From: "Gordon Montgomery" <gordon@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 3:19 PM
>>> >>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project=20
>>> >>> to =3D
> go?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Trovis,
>>> >>>>    re: "...I do not fully understand the commentary about=3D20=20
>>> >>>> Microsoft...."
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If this group is planning to do free work for Microsoft =
then=3D20=20
>>> >>>> it's not
>>> >>>> "open source" and I would not be interested.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Open source software is all 100% free....that would include=20
>>> >>>> the=3D20 OS
>> and
>>> >>>> all the apps.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Just because we all have bought in MS does not seem to me to=20
>>> >>>> be=3D20 a reason to perpetuate the problems.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> g.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Gordon Montgomery
>>> >>>> Information design consultant
>>> >>>> http://gmeta.com
>>> >>>> 512 377 9691 (w)
>>> >>>> 512 299 3637 (m)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
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