[ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?

Good. I am not avery good programmer (just learning), and I had vissions of 
writing something, and then having you guys kick my doors down because I'd 
screwed up the project.

Cheers for the info,

Chris Norman
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lant" <david.lant1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?


> Hi Chris,
>
> Any decent source control product worth its salt also includes proper
> version control.  If, at any time, a team member screws up big time, the
> whole or part of the project can be rolled back to a previous version.
>
> All the best,
>
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Norman
> Sent: 24 April 2005 04:35
> To: ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>
>
> Oh right.
>
> Do you think there would be any benefit in keeping a copy of any source =
> code
>
> at every stage somewhere? Because people (my self for example LMAO!) are =
>
> bound to submit code that has bugs in it, or maybe take out portions of =
> code
>
> because they think it's redundant or whatever, any of these problems =
> could=20
> be catastrophic for the project.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris Norman
> <!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:16 PM
> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> It's not really security that's a concern.  Source code repositories=20
>> give you some useful features for managing the source code when=20
>> multiple people are working on it.  For example, it keeps a master=20
>> copy of the source code. When people submit their updated copies it=20
>> alters the master copy, and if someone submits a copy where someone=20
>> has already submitted a change to that
>> line of code, it will flag it up and ask them to manually edit the =
> master
>> copy to take into account both changes.  So, a source code repository=20
>> makes
>> working with the source code in a project where more than one person =
> is
>> working on it a manageable task.  There's also other great features =
> about
>> using one.  It's something you don't really think about until you =
> start to
>> work on projects where there's more than one person.
>>
>> In the worst case, we can have the informational web site on one=20
>> server, maybe even a shared hosting account, and use Source Forge for=20
>> things like CVS, FTP downloads, bug tracking, etc.
>>
>> Will
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Norman" <chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:38 PM
>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>>
>>
>>> Ok mate, well give me a shout when you've found one (if you still=20
>>> need my help).
>>>
>>> Could the source code not just be banged on an FTP under the domain?=20
>>> I
>> don't
>>> know how secure that kind of thing is, although I imagine after it's=20
>>> password protected, you'd be prety safe.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Chris Norman
>>> <!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 12:21 PM
>>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to go?
>>>
>>>
>>> > Thanks for the offer Chris.
>>> >
>>> > At the moment, we have a domain name registered, but no server to=20
>>> > associate it with.  The problem is, that we're likely to need a=20
>>> > dedicated server,
>> or
>>> > at least a good portion of a dedicated web server, as we would need =
>
>>> > not only a web site, but source code repositories, such as CVS, Sub =
>
>>> > Version,
>> etc.,
>>> > a
>>> > bug tracker and possibly a requirements management package as well.
>>> > So,
>>> > we
>>> > have pretty complex requirements for a web server, although I think =
> I
>> know
>>> > somewhere where I could get this for free.
>>> >
>>> > So, for the moment we're just trying to find a server to put it all =
>
>>> > on, but your help would be appreciated in creating a web site once=20
>>> > we've found
>> the
>>> > server.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Will
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Chris Norman" <chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:02 PM
>>> > Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to =
> go?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Will, would it be benefitial for me to set up a website for this
>> project?
>>> >>
>>> >> I can get a free domain at www.freewebpage.org/ (granted a sub=20
>>> >> domain but...), if you like, I don't know what else I can do to=20
>>> >> help you, but that is one of the things, and as soon as I have=20
>>> >> learned c++ (don't hold
>> your
>>> >> breath, we need you LOL), I'll be able to help a lot more.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anything else I can do, give me a shout.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris Norman
>>> >> <!-- chris.norman4@xxxxxxxxxxxx -->
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Richard Thomas" <rthomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:56 PM
>>> >> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to =
> go?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi Travis;
>>> >>> So you're involved in this too?  Not bad, will and you should=20
>>> >>> bring
>> some
>>> >>> fine technical and ergonomic design to the project. If you are
>>> >>> serious
>>> >>> about
>>> >>> something of a large scale, and what I've heard so far indicates=20
>>> >>> that,
>>> >>> bring
>>> >>> in someone with business background, a legal advisor and perhaps =
> a=20
>>> >>> CPA
>>> >>> if
>>> >>> one will donate a little time to help you set up the nuts and =
> bolts.
>>> >>> This
>>> >>> will be the glue that will hold the whole thing together when =
> times
>>> >>> require
>>> >>> it so the project will continue despite individual conflicts =
> which
>> will
>>> >>> crop
>>> >>> up from time to time.  It will also take care of any questions of =
>
>>> >>> proprietary considerations, Government reporting requirements and =
>
>>> >>> questions of management responsibilities.  If you just want to=20
>>> >>> write a program
>> or
>>> >>> two
>>> >>> you won't need to do this of course but the project will fall=20
>>> >>> apart within a
>>> >>> year or two at most.  A formal structure is the glue, as I =
> mentioned,
>>> >>> which
>>> >>> will bind everyone together over time.  That's why companies like =
>
>>> >>> J&J,
>>> >>> Microsoft, RedHat,  et. al. become incorporated.  It's not just =
> that
>>> >>> they
>>> >>> want to float stock but remain in business after the initial =
> group
>> leavs
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> company.  As a company the project will take on a life of it's=20
>>> >>> own
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> become it's own individual entity with it's own lifespan =
> depending on
>>> >>> how
>>> >>> it
>>> >>> fulfils the needs of it's clients.  This is perhaps even more
>> necessary
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> a non-profit company as there will not likely be full time, long=20
>>> >>> term folks in the key positions to maintain a constant and=20
>>> >>> consistant hand on the
>>> >>> reigns.  Take a look at the MySql site.  That is what you are =
> headed
>> for
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> spending some time and effort up front will avoid mistakes. Ps.=20
>>> >>> forgive my spelling, I'm not good at it and never have been and I =
>
>>> >>> don't have MS Word anymore to help me.
>>> >>> Rick of Farmington Mich. USA
>>> >>> Rick of Farmington Mich. USA
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> >>> From: "Gordon Montgomery" <gordon@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> To: <ossrp-control@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 3:19 PM
>>> >>> Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: So, where do you want the project to =
> go?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Trovis,
>>> >>>>    re: "...I do not fully understand the commentary about=20
>>> >>>> Microsoft...."
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If this group is planning to do free work for Microsoft then=20
>>> >>>> it's
>>> >>>> not
>>> >>>> "open source" and I would not be interested.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Open source software is all 100% free....that would include the=20
>>> >>>> OS
>> and
>>> >>>> all the apps.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Just because we all have bought in MS does not seem to me to be=20
>>> >>>> a reason to perpetuate the problems.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> g.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Gordon Montgomery
>>> >>>> Information design consultant
>>> >>>> http://gmeta.com
>>> >>>> 512 377 9691 (w)
>>> >>>> 512 299 3637 (m)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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