RE: TOAD vs SQL Navigator

Dave,
  Nice summary.

  My "bread & butter" is PL/SQL coding so maybe that's why I like SQL*Nav.
I would love to get more familiar with Toad, but as you mention, the daily
deliverables partially prohibit doing so.  I would like to get more into the
Team Coding features, but our Enterprise Change Management requires us to
use Clearcase.  Does that integrate with Toad?  If so, I would seriously
consider the switch.

Thanks,
Jon Knight

 -----Original Message-----
From:   oradev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oradev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On
Behalf Of Dave Schmoldt
Sent:   Martes, 30 de Agosto de 2005 12:19 p.m.
To:     oradev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:        RE: TOAD vs SQL Navigator

TOAD seems (to me) to have a huge number of configuration options.  In fact,
the programmers have been joking about having too many and that the users
are getting confused.  IN the latest beta, they've gone through and cleaned
or re-configured a lot of the configuration screens.  But I can't compare it
to SQL Navigator, since I no longer have access to it.

TOAD's hotkeys ... I tend to just use the defaults, but I understand you can
define them however you want, to whatever you want.  Maybe they should offer
a SQL Navigator hot-key emulation ooption. :-)

I think we all get comfortable with whatever tools we use, and if we try out
another one, it won't feel right compared to the one we're used to.  We
would have to really immerse ourselves in the new tool for several days to
get adjusted to it, and who has the time for that?

I think SQL Navigator is really focused on SQL and PL/SQL editing, and does
a good job in that area.  TOAD has expanded their scope into DBA
functionality, project management, team coding, and other areas.  Some might
see that as good, some might see it as bloat. :-)

I would say it's good to have competing products, because it keeps them both
on their toes.  But since in this case TOAD and SQL Navigator are both owned
by Quest, I'm not sure how that works. 

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oradev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:oradev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Knight, Jon
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:57 AM
> To: 'oradev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: TOAD vs SQL Navigator
> 
>   Dave gives great background info, but I'm a SQL*Nav user.  
> I have both installed and use Toad occasionally, depending on 
> need.  They both have their strengths and weaknesses.  For 
> me, SQL*Nav has a much nicer feel, very streamlined.  I work 
> faster in SQL*Nav because of the hotkey combinations 
> available.  I much prefer to keep my hand on the keyboard 
> instead of the wasted time reaching for the mouse to click a 
> button.  Before I get blasted .. I'm know Toad has hotkeys 
> too, but I the SQL*Nav ones feel more.
> intuitive to me.
> 
>   Also, I'm not sure Toad has all the configurability of 
> SQL*Nav.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> 

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