It's actually not as bad as it seems. I don't remember the details for dbconsole, but I know that after you restart services, the password gets encrypted in the file so it does not stay clear text for very long. I agree that they could provide a better mechanism for changing the password. Bob Robert Buda Buda Consulting, Inc 100 Overlook Center, 2nd Floor Princeton, NJ 08540 609 375-2368 www.budaconsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Stell Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:47 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: sysman, dbsnmp, assword change in em/dbconsole Interested in 11g here. There are these notes, 259387.1 and 259379.1, on the atrocious password change procedures for sysman and dbsnmp. I see some notes on mgmt_view, but nothing for a standalone dbconsole. Is there anything "special" for this guy? Putting clear text strings in files...well, isn't that special? -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 9:31 AM -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l