Re: sqlplus shutdown "time-out"
- From: "Ranko Mosic" <mosicr@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <JHostetter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Oracle-L" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:49:34 -0400
Double shutdown is ok - you get consistent datafiles to back up.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hostetter, Jay M" <JHostetter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Oracle-L" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Goulet, Dick" <DGoulet@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: sqlplus shutdown "time-out"
> It's left over from Rama Velpouri's scripts in his Backup and Recovery
> handbook. (OK - I have the 7.3 book, so I don't know if this was
> changed in later releases of the book - if there were any). His book
> cites the reasons as:
>
> 1) To get the datafiles and redologs listing file (which I no longer
> need, now that I use RMAN)
>
> 2) To get a clean cold backup.
>
> Jay
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:DGoulet@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:44 AM
> To: Hostetter, Jay M; Oracle-L
> Cc: vitalisman@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: sqlplus shutdown "time-out"
>
> Question: Why the double shutdown? A "shutdown immediate" is a clean
> shutdown.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hostetter, Jay M
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:17 AM
> To: Oracle-L
> Cc: vitalisman@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: sqlplus shutdown "time-out"
>
> We are running the same database version and OS version. This same
> problem just recently started happening on one of our databases.
> We do the folowing
>
> Shutdown immediate;
> Startup restrict;
> Shutdown;
>
> The shutdown immediate was fine. However, the normal shutdown was
> generating the 1013 error. From what I could tell, a user with dba
> rights was connecting while the database was in restrict mode. I
> modified the script so that it locks that user's account prior to the
> first shutdown. This seems to have fixed my problem.
>
> However, I'm not answering your question. I'm not sure what timeout
> value is used. Are these sessions executing some long running SQL
> commands? Can they be rescheduled to run at another time? Years ago, I
> had an instructer tell me that for backups, just do the following:
>
> alter system checkpoint;
> shutdown abort;
> Startup restrict;
> Shutdown;
>
> While this definitely brings the database down, I never really felt
> comfortable doing this. You might just want to kill active processes
> before you start your backup.
>
> Jay
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