Re: reading the SGA from my own program

Not to be picky, but any query on the X$ or V$ (especially joins) will
produce inconsistent results or data. That is the price that you pay. Now
the big problem with reading SGA structures is with structures that are
dynamic (v$session is not really dynamic), for example v$sqlarea. One needs
to get a couple of latches to make sure that the pointers  are still valid
(or are valid up to a certain point). Remember the good old days when
SYSTEMSTATE dumps would coredump when executed on a live system? That is why
it was a bad idea to have a backgroundprocess do a system state dump. One
bad pointer and the instance is dead. So the other thing one can do if one
can't use latches is to built in many checks to make sure the structures and
addresses are still valid.

-Anjo.


On 8/21/06, Powell, Mark D <mark.powell@xxxxxxx> wrote:

The primary point of directly reading shared memory is that by doing so you bypass Oracle. So when the entire instance hangs and will not grant new connections you can go around the problem and see what is happening (or not happening as the case may be). You also avoid the latching overhead required for accessing the shared memory structures via Oracle. True, you may see some inconsistent data, but you will see it.

HTH -- Mark D Powell --


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 Please forgive my ignorance, but what is the point of this direct SGA
access anyway?  Why not just query v$session_event and/or v$session_wait, or
the underlying x$ tables?

Thanks,
Brandon

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Also, if all you're interested in is the current wait state of a session,
then there's no real fundamental need to map those SHM segments which do not
contain the data you're interested in (as far as I understand).

Tanel.

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