RE: pl/sql to be desupported in favour of java? (not!)
- From: "Mark W. Farnham" <mwf@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <alaxsxaq@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:03:52 -0500
You are correct that it seems unlikely that we will see much in the way of
new application user interface work done in PL/SQL. Any correlation between
Larry speculating about industry possibilities, trends and directions at a
conference keynote and Larry making an official Oracle pronouncement that a
product line will be terminated is purely an accident of history. I *think*
SQL*CALC is gone, but that is about all?
Add this up: Oracle Unlimited + Publication of ?supported forever?
Application suite releases that rely on PL/SQL modules.
Even if you postulate interface and call sequence look-alike wrappers in
something other than PL/SQL for all those embedded calls, you?re still
looking at something like 2013 for support of current versions in the field
that include native PL/SQL code.
To me the much more interesting question is whether Oracle will push PL/SQL
as a transparent language standard and welcome 3rd party database products
to build their own as part of the ?we integrate with everyone who adheres to
standards? service oriented architecture (SOA) and Fusion initiatives.
Oracle has an extremely difficult to navigate course in that regard. Even if
Oracle would be magnanimous to the extreme and make PL/SQL open source, they
can hardly surrender control of the PL/SQL language definition. Doing so
would make them vulnerable to the long history of folks casting marbles
under their competitor?s feet in the standards bodies wars, and there is far
too much sunk cost in built and tested PL/SQL modules in Oracle?s portfolio
of applications and products to tolerate that risk in the near term.
Speaking of global Oracle oriented conferences, I wonder if Las Vegas will
have odds for whether COBOL, Java, or PL/SQL will be extinct first? That
would be an interesting book to make, since no one will be around long
enough to have to pay off that bet.
Regards,
mwf
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Subject: Re: pl/sql to be desupported in favour of java? (not!)
On 12/15/06, Mark W. Farnham < mwf@xxxxxxxx <mailto:mwf@xxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Until "someone" has a name, and unless that name is Larry Ellison, you can
be pretty sure the root of the rumor is a competitor of Oracle attempting to
create fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
Well, when Oracle first put Java in the database, I remember clearly words
to the effect that Java would replace PL/SQL coming out of Larry Ellison's
mouth. I believe it was during Oracle OpenWorld - I can't remember the last
year, but I recall it being in Los Angeles. There was some controversy
about Ellison's statements back then and I think it was Ray Lane who quickly
assured everyone that Java was not seen as a replacement for PL/SQL.
--Glenn
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