Hi >in ioug it was mentioned that oracle will now be=20 >doing a flat support of 5 years from the database >release and indefinite for ems customers . My reference for support info is Metalink note 161818.1.=20 I gave it a look a couple of days ago and I didn't see something "new", = i.e. usual support timeframe for both ECS and EMS. HTH Chris -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l