Jonathan, Something I pointed out to Brandon in a separate email, is that the behavior doesn't seem to reverse when you set that parameter back to true. Queries continue to use SORT (GROUP BY)... I would be curious if you see the same thing... Chris Taylor Sr. Oracle DBA Ingram Barge Company Nashville, TN 37205 Office: 615-517-3355 Cell: 615-354-4799 Email: chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Lewis Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 11:36 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: _gby_hash_aggregation_enabled=false I've just tried the following on 10.2.0.1 select owner, count(*) from dba_objects group by owner; Autotrace produced a plan with a hash group by. Then I did alter session set "_gby_hash_aggregation_enabled" = false; and repeated the query - the plan switched to a sort group by (Your sample query from v$sql_plan defaulted to a sort group by anyway, which is why I had to find another query). A possible explanation for your observation - if I ran the test using SQL_TRACE rather than autotrace, the first cursor was not invalidated when I changed the setting for the parameter. Try repeating your test with a comment in the text to make the before and after versions of the query look different. You might also try the /*+ no_use_hash_aggregation */ hint. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com Author: Cost Based Oracle: Fundamentals http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/cbo_book/ind_book.html The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: _gby_hash_aggregation_enabled=false > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:10:03 -0700 > From: "Allen, Brandon" <Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > Has anyone else tried setting this hidden parameter and found it didn't > disable the HASH GROUP BY feature? It's suggested in Metalink 387958.1 > as a workaround to the "wrong results" bug (4604970) with the new HASH > GROUP BY feature, so I just set it as follows: > SQL> alter system set "_gby_hash_aggregation_enabled"=false; > > System altered. > > > Then I ran a 10046 trace on a query known to have the HASH GROUP BY > operation in its explain plan: > > SQL> alter session set sql_trace=true; > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l