> ...need stable sql plans. But the whole point of the CBO is that execution plan stability is inferior to execution plan adaptation to changing circumstances. As Jonathan Lewis points out very well, all it takes is the insertion of a single row to make the True Best Plan change from one execution to another. If you truly want plan stability, then you want stored outlines, do you not? Certainly, there are two distinct categories where CBO messes up: I. Where it has been misinformed by the data it uses to make decisions. II. Where it makes poor decisions based upon truly representative data. My experience is that most problems that people think are category II problems are really category I problems in disguise. The difference can be revealed by inspection of 10053 data. I do recognize the existence of category II problems as well. It's just that I think they're considerably rarer than most people believe. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Nullius in verba Hotsos Symposium 2007 / March 4-8 / Dallas Visit www.hotsos.com for curriculum and schedule details... -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laimutis Nedzinskas Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:11 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: full-scan vs index for "small" tables > On Behalf Of Cary Millsap > RBO is dramatically inferior to CBO in every case except for the one where the operational manager doesn't do a good job of making sure that the statistics are a reasonable representation of the production data. OK. To clarify my point: Case1: In the world where sql developer says literally "a man must not have to think" CBO is a right thing. Let the software think. Case2: in the world "do once and forget" I need stable sql plans. The "operational manager doesn't do a good job" does not work here. There is no problem to build even simple counter cases when CBO goes astray. What sql developer best practices would be then? To the previous list I can think of to add one more: - bundle "good" statistics into your product setup. Fyrirvari/Disclaimer http://www.landsbanki.is/disclaimer -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l