Obviously, Larry needs a bigger boat! I went to a presentation at the RMOUG Training Days last week and one of the presenters was talking about ASH. I'm almost certain that he said something about the views being there, but you had to write your own scripts to use them if you weren't buying the DP. I'll go through the documentation CD and see if there's something in there. I may have it tomorrow. Kelley ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen, Brandon Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:35 PM To: Coleman, Kelley (HAC); MATT.ADAMS@xxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: diagnostics pack - 10g licensing I just found the following in the 10.2 documentation on licensing for the Diagnostics Pack (http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/license.102/b14199/op tions.htm#CIHHIGBI): Oracle Diagnostic Pack In order to use the features listed above, you must purchase licenses for the Diagnostic Pack. The Diagnostics Pack functionality can be accessed by Enterprise Manager links as well as through the database server command-line APIs. The use of either interface requires a Diagnostic Pack license. ... Am I the only one that thinks this is ridiculous? Why does Oracle include all this functionality and then tell you that you can't use it unless you have a separate license? I guess it's just a sleezy sales tactic, just like a car salesman letting you test drive a car that he knows costs more than you said you want to spend, but how can they expect us to know which views, scripts, procedures, etc. are off-limits? It's one thing to be using OEM and know that you can't click on anything in the Diagnostics Pack menu, but knowing all the different objects in the database that you can't use and keeping up with them all from version to version and release to release is impossible. Can I get an amen brothers & sisters?!? -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Coleman, Kelley (HAC) I understand that the Diagnostic Pack is a separately licensed product. It should be available on OTN. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.