You can download a free trial at: http://www.embarcadero.com/downloads/download.html -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:13 PM To: Oracle Discussion List Subject: Re: data modelling tools We are using designer. However, Oracle has stopped adding new features. I have used Erwin before. Anyone use any other tools? Pros/Cons? Anything that has a repository like designer? -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l