Comments below ... ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:49 PM To: Oracle-L Freelists Subject: create db, mount stages, sql.bsq, catalog.sql Forwarded for Sean Hull - he is having some email (sending) problems. Please reply to shull@xxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi All, I know it's been a very long time since I've posted. Mostly I'm just lurking, and reading these days. I'm working on a presentation for Collaborate 2007. I'm illustrating a very basica CREATE DATABASE, with only a few options. I want to illustrate the state of the data dictionary when: 1. startup nomount 2. after we have run create database (sql.bsq does what?) 3. after we have run catalog.sql I've been digging around myself, and for instance at stage #1 v$session, and v$parameter and so on are available. In face many v$ tables such as v$tablespace, and v$datafile are available, but return an error at this point because the db isn't mounted. After stage #2 those v$ tables work properly. [rr] Makes sense - there are no datafiles nor a data dictionary until the DB is created. sql.bsq is described here: http://safari.oreilly.com/1565924509/ch04-23413 Does anyone know of a good discussion of this, or thorough documentation on it. I would like to cover it a little better than my own investigations might. Thanks in advance, Sean -- Sean Hull, Founder Snr Consultant Heavyweight Internet Group http://www.iheavy.com <http://www.iheavy.com/> Rockefeller Center, Box 5352 v: 646.827.9877x23 m: 917.442.3939 New York, NY 10185 Subs to Open Insights: http://www.iheavy.com/lists/?p=subscribe&id=1 Linkedin Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/687/638 BOOK Oracle & Open Source: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/oracleopen/ "Get Out of the Tech Hex": http://www.changethis.com/27.04.TechHex "MySQL for OracleDBA": http://dbazine.com/ofinterest/oi-articles/hull1/ This electronic message transmission is a PRIVATE communication which contains information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, or notify us by telephone (877-633-2436, ext. 0), and then delete it from your system.