Ah, if you have to shut down the database (though can't you just do a
hot backup or RMAN?) then I'd go with abort, startup, immediate. KISS
applies here I think. Shouldn't take any longer than running the kill
script.
Thanks,
Jay Miller
Sr. Oracle DBA
x68355
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*From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Queen Roo Roo
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:57 PM
*To:* Smith, Ronald [Contractor]
*Cc:* oracle-l
*Subject:* Re: alter system v shutdown abort
The situation is that we have to have all users off so that the system can
shut down for backup. It's an HP_UX HA solution that I am not familiar
with. If all active users are not off, the process doesn't run and the
stuff hits the fan. The process does a shutdown immediate as it's first
action but that fails if a hung user is left on. I suggested that we use my
program to see if there are any active users and kill them. The other
option is the shutdown abort, startup, shutdown immediate but that might
take longer than we have before system before the next step is excuted.
Just killing any hung users seems to be less dangerous. Any other
thoughts?
Thanks again,
Ruth
On 9/13/06, *Smith, Ronald [Contractor]* <Ron.Smith@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have had to recover more than once after doing a shutdown abort. I only
use it as a last resort.
I kill the users, shutdown immediate, startup, shutdown (normal).
Ron
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*From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Queen Roo Roo
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:40 PM
*To:* oracle-l
*Subject:* alter system v shutdown abort
Hello everyone,
Can someone tell me an alter system kill session 'sid,serial#'; will kill
runaway processes or long running queries as efficiently as doing a shutdown
abort, startup , shutdown immediate? I have always run a job which shutdown
kills all users who shouldn't be on after a specific time but the
SA at my new job is skepticle because another DBA told him to use a
shutdown abort, startup, shutdown immediate sequence.
Thanks in advance,
Ruth
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