RE: When one can call oneself expert

I've read this thread with interest agreeing with round(99.9)||'%' of posts
and thinking I won't add .....
... but I couldn't resist :-)

IMO - if people think a given subject is complicated and from their limited
perspective you appear to
know all the answers, then like it or not, you will be considered an expert.
Being the longest serving DBA at my place of work, I am therefore considered
an expert.
Like other list-ers, this is not a title that sits comfortably with me 'cos
I know how much there is
out there that I don't know !
Nevertheless - I don't correct them either, I just answer their questions if
I can, but also just as
importantly, if I don't know I SAY SO !

Merry Christmas List.

Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F
Sent: 23 December 2004 12:53
To: 'FREEMANR@xxxxxxxx'; 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '
Subject: RE: When one can call oneself expert


Robert,

"A man's got to know his limitations".
(A quote from a Dirty Harry movie.)

This, to me, is the definition of an expert.  You *clearly* understand that
you know a lot about Oracle, but that there are things you do not know but
have the interest and drive to learn them.

I always think that understanding what I don't know is more important than
bragging about what I do know.

One of life's lessons.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:FREEMANR@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 5:37 PM
To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '
Subject: RE: When one can call oneself expert

Personally, I am uncomfortable with the title expert. I've had it put in a
Bio or two, but never at my request. Even after 15+ years of Oracle, I still
find out every day that:

1. There are things I never quite understood right.
2. Things I didn't know that I thought I should know.
3. That there are things that I knew at one time, that I completley have
forgotten (I hate this one the worst I think).

All I know is that I'm fortunate to have a wide set of experiences, so I've
done a great number of things. I understand the basics, so the details are
not that hard to get to. I can read, and research, and think I have
something that I think only trully "experienced" DBA's have, a kind of
sixth-sence about problem solving. 

Does that make me special? Nope, just means I've been doing this a while.
Put me in an ER and I'd be killing people all day long.

RF


-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 12/22/2004 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: When one can call oneself expert

Amen!  I have know many Oracle "experts"  with really very little
knowledge.

When someone calls themselves an "expert" I usually find myself
recycling
their resume and looking for another candidate.  I usually find these
people
are experts at BS and not Oracle at all.

Kathy

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Sutton [mailto:terrysutton@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:01 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: When one can call oneself expert


I was once told "There are no experts, only specialists", and I've seen
no
reason to disagree.

--Terry

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