A lot of books do not give even the rationales that have been given in this thread. I would go to Borders or Barnes & Noble, look at several beginning Oracle 9i books, and look up how they explain database creation. Many books just skip over important things like that, out of laziness. There are a lot of bad Oracle books out there. We ought to have a thread on most useful and most usless Oracle books. -----Original Message----- From: April Wells [mailto:AWells@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:25 AM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: What comes first?? (Creating the Database or the Tablespace) There is a really good book... DBA 101... that can also be found on Amazon! =) April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas @>-->-->-- "Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite" Adam Wells age 11 "Imagination is the highest kite one can fly." Lauren Bacall -----Original Message----- From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:DGoulet@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:07 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: What comes first?? (Creating the Database or the Tablespace) Well, it is sort of a chicken & egg thing. When you issue the "create = database" command the system tablespace gets created for you at the same = time. You can't create the system tablespace anyway else. Mind you, = you can drop it, with subsequent catastrophic results. Once the "create = database" command finishes you can create any other tablespace(s) you = want. I'd strongly recommend either a beginners class on Oracle = followed by the beginners and intermediate DBA classes or the Oracle for = Dummy's book at Amazon.com. You need a basic understanding of what your = talking about, otherwise Mladen is going to have your lunch. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- From: Software Software [mailto:SoftwareS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:42 AM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: What comes first?? (Creating the Database or the Tablespace) Hie All, I would like to find out from you what should be created first between = the database and the tablespace? The book I managed to lay my hands on does = not say, and I'm lost as what should I create first. Also does the database use the same datafile as the tablespace? 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