Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I've got it working now. The answer appears to have been: 1. Move to the administrator account (implies permission issues which I need to figure out) 2. Total uninstall (including browser add-on) and registry clean-up from the account I had installed in. Having done those things, we get a good clean boot. BTW, I did check and unless I somehow checked not to install GRUB (but on 5 different install attempts, I don't think so) then that wasn't there issue. RF Robert G. Freeman Oracle ACE Ask me about on-site Oracle Training! RMAN, DBA, Tuning, you name it! Author: Oracle Database 11g RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press) - ON IT'S WAY SOON! OCP: Oracle Database 11g Administrator Certified Professional Study Guide (Sybex) Oracle Database 11g New Features (Oracle Press) Oracle Database 10g New Features (Oracle Press) Other various titles Blog: http://robertgfreeman.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: Robert Freeman <robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Blanchard, William" <wblanchard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; dave <david.best@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Alessandro Vercelli <alever@xxxxxxxxx>; oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 2:12:46 PM Subject: Re: Using VMWare 2.0.2 One thing I suspect as I've sat and let my sub-subconscious churn on it today is that the de-install I did when I moved to the administrator account might not have been completey clean. I've read a few things on the VMWare site about registry entries hanging around, and I don't think I removed the add-on for the web browser. Any of those could be an issue. I think I will try a re-install again after wiping everything out, including running ccleaner on the registry and see what happens. I'm sure I did the install right, including accepting the GRUB bootloader default (which is to install)... I'm like you, I tend to load everything up including the kitchen sink.... those kitchen sinks come in handy sometimes! :-) RF Robert G. Freeman Oracle ACE Ask me about on-site Oracle Training! RMAN, DBA, Tuning, you name it! Author: Oracle Database 11g RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press) - ON IT'S WAY SOON! OCP: Oracle Database 11g Administrator Certified Professional Study Guide (Sybex) Oracle Database 11g New Features (Oracle Press) Oracle Database 10g New Features (Oracle Press) Other various titles Blog: http://robertgfreeman.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: "Blanchard, William" <wblanchard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Robert Freeman <robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>; dave <david.best@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Alessandro Vercelli <alever@xxxxxxxxx>; oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 2:08:19 PM Subject: RE: Using VMWare 2.0.2 Could just be a dependency. I usually install everything and then go back and delete just to make sure that I don't mess anything up. WGB ________________________________ From: Robert Freeman [mailto:robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:57 PM To: Blanchard, William; dave Cc: Alessandro Vercelli; oracle-l Subject: Re: Using VMWare 2.0.2 Maybe I de-selected it on the install.... I just meant I wasn't doing anything special on the setup with the bootloader, so maybe I wasn't making myself clear. I've done this before a number of times and never had this problem. I'll try it again tonight and make sure I'm not stupidly de-selecting it. I've done stupider things. RF Robert G. Freeman Oracle ACE Ask me about on-site Oracle Training! RMAN, DBA, Tuning, you name it! Author: Oracle Database 11g RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press) - ON IT'S WAY SOON! OCP: Oracle Database 11g Administrator Certified Professional Study Guide (Sybex) Oracle Database 11g New Features (Oracle Press) Oracle Database 10g New Features (Oracle Press) Other various titles Blog: http://robertgfreeman.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: "Blanchard, William" <wblanchard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx; dave <david.best@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Alessandro Vercelli <alever@xxxxxxxxx>; oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 1:13:24 PM Subject: RE: Using VMWare 2.0.2 Robert, You need to have some type of bootloader installed (grub, lilo [is that even used anymore], etc). Try reinstalling with grub on /boot and see if that does the trick. WGB ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Freeman Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:18 AM To: dave Cc: Alessandro Vercelli; oracle-l Subject: Re: Using VMWare 2.0.2 When installing I did not enable GRUB, so I'm thinking that would not be an issue. I'm going to install with VMWare 1 tonight and see if that fixes the problem. RF Robert G. Freeman Oracle ACE Ask me about on-site Oracle Training! RMAN, DBA, Tuning, you name it! Author: Oracle Database 11g RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press) - ON IT'S WAY SOON! OCP: Oracle Database 11g Administrator Certified Professional Study Guide (Sybex) Oracle Database 11g New Features (Oracle Press) Oracle Database 10g New Features (Oracle Press) Other various titles Blog: http://robertgfreeman.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: dave <david.best@xxxxxxxxx> To: robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Alessandro Vercelli <alever@xxxxxxxxx>; oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 10:07:40 AM Subject: Re: Using VMWare 2.0.2 I've had issues with grub not picking up the right boot partition.. if you can boot with your the install media and see it, then check your /boot/grub/grub.conf file and verify its looking at the partition you specified to be the boot partition when you did the install. Not sure how familiar with grub but here is a clip. You want to be looking at the root(hd0,0) line. The below says to boot from the first partition of the first drive. title Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS (2.6.9-78.0.1.ELhugemem) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-78.0.1.ELhugemem ro root=LABEL=/1 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.9-78.0.1.ELhugemem.img On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Robert Freeman <robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This is RH 5. I'm pretty sure this is not a RH boot issue but rather a VMWare issue. > I'll try the boot with the media/rescue option and see what happens tonight. >