I confess that I love such things from a techno weenie point of view. I hate them from a manager point of view. Nothing makes me cringe more than thinking some developer would use such functions in production code only to find that they no longer work after the next upgrade since they are not "supported" or "documented". As Fatboy Slim says... You can go with this, or you can go with that..... Thanks for pointing them out Jared!! RF Robert G. Freeman Author: Oracle Database 11g New Features (Oracle Press) Portable DBA: Oracle (Oracle Press) Oracle Database 10g New Features (Oracle Press) Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press) Oracle9i New Feature Blog: http://robertgfreeman.blogspot.com (Oracle Press) The LDS Church is looking for DBA's. You must be LDS to apply (please don't write to me and tell me I'm breaking the law. A church can choose to hire members of it's own faith. Look it up if you don't believe me). ----- Original Message ---- From: Jared Still <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx> To: Oracle-L Freelists <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 6:06:50 PM Subject: Undocumented Oracle Functions Some of these may be new to you. http://jkstill.blogspot.com/2008/10/undocumented-oracle-functions.html It's time to find the new ones in 11g. :) -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist