RE: Undocumented Instance/Media Recover Feature?
- From: "Powell, Mark D" <mark.powell@xxxxxxx>
- To: "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:17:11 -0400
Pardon me if I am butting in but I think because the information in the
control file does not match up to sys.file$ which ties file numbers to
tablespaces. There apparently is a file# in file$ that is not in the
control file.
Was an old or backup control file used to start the db by the other
DBA/Developer?
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Orr, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:58 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Undocumented Instance/Media Recover Feature?
The curiousity is that the file didn't exist in the O/S, Oracle created
it without telling me, and it created and placed a database object into
that file, again, without telling me. I just stumbled across this but
I'd like to KNOW when this happens.
V$DATAFILE and V$TABLESPACE get information from the control file so how
could they be out of sync?=20
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Johnston
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:46 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Undocumented Instance/Media Recover Feature?
Hi Steve...
I believe you are seeing a mismatch between the controlfile and the=20
data dictionary... Basically, you started up your database and the data
dictionary says you have tablespace "blah" associated with file id "x"=20
but the controlfile doesn't have a file for that tablespace... So, it=20
places a dummy placeholder file in it's place... You can simulate this=20
but doing the following:
$ sqlplus "/ as sysdba"
SQL*Plus: Release 9.2.0.3.0 - Production on Wed May 26 11:37:32 2004
Copyright (c) 1982, 2002, Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.
Connected to an idle instance.
SQL> Create Tablespace Tim Datafile '/export/home/oradata/PV429/tim.dbf'
size 10M;
Tablespace created.
SQL> alter database backup controlfile to trace;
Database altered.
SQL> shutdown immediate
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.
SQL>
Then edit the create control file command and removed the line for the=20
newly created datafile...
$ sqlplus "/ as sysdba"
SQL*Plus: Release 9.2.0.3.0 - Production on Wed May 26 11:40:21 2004
Copyright (c) 1982, 2002, Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.
Connected to an idle instance.
SQL> startup nomount
ORACLE instance started.
Total System Global Area 252793548 bytes
Fixed Size 455372 bytes
Variable Size 167772160 bytes
Database Buffers 83886080 bytes
Redo Buffers 679936 bytes
SQL> @cre_control
Control file created.
SQL> alter database open;
Database altered.
SQL> set pagesize 1000 =20
SQL> select * from dba_data_files where tablespace_name =3D 'TIM';
FILE_NAME
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
FILE_ID TABLESPACE_NAME BYTES BLOCKS STATUS
---------- ------------------------------ ---------- ----------
---------
RELATIVE_FNO AUT MAXBYTES MAXBLOCKS INCREMENT_BY USER_BYTES
USER_BLOCKS
------------ --- ---------- ---------- ------------ ----------
-----------
/opt/oracle/product/9.2.0/dbs/MISSING00035
35 TIM
AVAILABLE
35
SQL>
Tim
Orr, Steve wrote:
>We have this QA database which I can mostly ignore but Mr. QA dude
found
>a bug caused by the compatible init.ora parameter not being properly
>set. Since they kind of admin their own database and know the timing of
>their database availability needs for QA testing, I gave QA dude
>instructions on recycling the database...
>"SQL> shutdown abort" and "SQL> startup"=3D20
>
>But the database didn't come back up due to a shared memory error so I
>figured I'd have to fix things with ipcs/ipcrm. But before getting into
>that I just tried "SQL> startup" myself and behold, everything started
>up just fine with no warning messages or anything. Hmmm... That's
>curious... I guess the oracle just likes me better. I was in
>$ORACLE_HOME/dbs verifying the existence of the "lk$ORACLE_SID" file
>when I saw something curious... A 100MB file named "MISSING00042" which
>had the same database startup timestamp as the lk$ORACLE_SID file and
>wondered what it was and where it came from. So I queried
dba_data_files
>and the data file with file_id 42 has the path of
>$ORACLE_HOME/dbs/MISSING00042. Whoa!!! That directory path and 100MB
are
>the default values when using Oracle-managed files and 42 is the answer
>to all things! But we don't use Oracle-managed files. Curious but how
>could the oracle create this datafile automagically for me and not even
>tell me? Where's it going to get the data? Then I look at dba_segments
>and see that there's only one object in that tablespace/datafile, an
>index which could be rebuilt from the data in another tablespace the
>table is in. Does this mean that the oracle couldn't find the datafile
>but created it for me automagically just because it could and because
>the only object was an index?=3D20
>
>Has anybody seen this behavior before? Is there any documentation on
it?
>Running Oracle 9.2.0.4 on Linux.
>
>
>Steve Orr
>Curious in Bozeman, Montana
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Regards,
Tim Johnston
Tel: 978-322-4226
Fax: 978-322-4100
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