Depending on how its implemented, RAC can allow for HA when your computer system fails (power supply goes down on one node for example), or any other nodal type harware failures such as faulty network cards, memory, etc. RAC is also extremely useful for load balancing. Now if your failure is on the storage side, then no, RAC isnt particularly useful as an HA solution. RAC however can be part of an HA environment. On 10/29/07, ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx <ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Tim- > > I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, and don't really see why you > wouldn't come right out and say it, but anyway.. > > So, the particular solution that I'm looking at employs a Global > Clustering Option. So, whatever happens at the primary site to cause a > failure (earthquake, wild fire, etc..) that the company deems as an outage, > would kick off the remote site to come online as the primary database. > > Ken > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> > Would an earthquake level just part of a data center? Do wildfires only > burn the 3rd server in a rack and not the 4th, sparing the storage in the > next cabinet over? > > In what way does RAC (or any clustering solution, such as SFOR) protect > against such threats? > > > > > ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Tim, > > As Finn mentioned, I'm looking at this to provide HA. This is for a > location in SoCal, so its prone to earthquakes, and most recently, wild > fires. > > Ken > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Finn Jorgensen" <finn.oracledba@xxxxxxxxx><finn.oracledba@xxxxxxxxx> > Tim, > > RAC/SFOR/HACMP/VCS etc are for high availability. Not disaster recovery. > As such, it's for the type of "disasters" that involve losing 1 server. > Anything else you would need a DR setup to handle. > > Finn > > > On 10/29/07, Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Well......out of all the possible (and probable) range of faults and > > failures, exactly what types of "disasters" does clustering such as RAC or > > SFOR protect against? > > > > > > ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > >It has to be a very selective disaster for clustering (i.e. RAC, HACMP, > > etc) to provide much protection. > > > > Tim- > > > > Sorry, I don't understand what that means. > > > > Ken > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> <tim@xxxxxxxxx> > > It has to be a very selective disaster for clustering (i.e. RAC, HACMP, > > etc) to provide much protection. > > > > > > ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > Dan, thanks for the feedback. > > > > We're trying to protect more than just the Oracle DB. While CRS and > > Dataguard work well to provide HA, it doesn't take into account the Siebel, > > IIS, etc installs that form the entire application stack. > > > > With this solution, we're hoping to lower the TCO in the event of a > > disaster. > > > > Ken > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: Dan Norris <dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > I have used the SFOR previously, but not on the current versions and > > not with 10g DB. I had no problems with the SFOR software. > > > > If I were implementing a cluster today with 10g, I wouldn't use any > > non-Oracle clusterware. Instead, I'd just use Oracle Clusterware as it > > provides all the HA you'll need for the DB. Maybe you have other reasons for > > using SFOR...I hope you do because I couldn't justify the investment given > > the current architecture. > > > > Others have posted similarly on this list and in OTN forums as well. > > > > Dan > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Ken Nguyen <ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx> <ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:46:05 AM > > Subject: Symantec Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC > > > > We¢re looking to implement Symantec Storage Foundation HA for Oracle > > RAC to offer HA for our Oracle 10g RAC on RHEL. > > > > > > > > Oracle has fully certified most of the components within this Symantec > > solution, except for the automatic failover piece (GCO). > > > > This component is certified on all platforms except for Red Hat, could > > have something to do with Oracle¢s OEL initiative. > > > > > > > > Is anyone using this or any other Symantec SF products without any > > issues? > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > -- Andrew W. Kerber 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'