Sorry, that's right... my mistake. :) FYI, it's not strictly required that you take the course through Oracle University - and maybe someone else will offer it a little cheaper... but that is really a rip. http://www.oracle.com/global/be/education/certification/dba10g_onecoursereq.html Beta exams are cheaper than the regular ones; I don't know if there are equivalent "beta classes" -- also the classes are often offered at events like Collaborate and Open World although I'm not sure if they are cheaper either. -J Jack van Zanen wrote: > I believe in the grand scheme of corporate greed it is now (since > oracle 9) required to have completed at least one oracle course. > > Just knowing your stuff is just not good enough. -- Jeremy Schneider Chicago, IL http://www.ardentperf.com -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l