It's 10.2.0.4, no data vault. It's 'new' multi-version development server, so 9.2.0.8 and 10.2.0.4 were just installed. Nothing fancy one this one - both databases were created from almost identical build scripts. (only the required changes from 9i to 10g, like sysaux and some parameter changes) Installed Top-level Products (3): Oracle Database 10g 10.2.0.1.0 Oracle Database 10g Products 10.2.0.1.0 Oracle Database 10g Release 2 Patch Set 3 10.2.0.4.0 There are 3 products installed in this Oracle Home. There are no Interim patches installed in this Oracle Home. Robyn On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What's the exact 10g version? I haven't checked but bear in mind that data > vault changes the passwordfile (I had assumed just format but security on > the file would seem to be an obvious target as well). If you have DV in > place that might explain the difference. > > Niall > >