I read the quote as saying: "We'd rather you still this free thing than the thing we charge you for". As Rosanne used to say "Thank's a lot Jane!" Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- From: Jared.Still@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Jared.Still@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:55 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Slightly OT: Sun advocates Software Piracy Not intended to start a full-scale discussion of Piracy, but I thought that many people on this list would find this interesting. http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/story/0,10801,90874,00. html I found the quote "But if someone wants to pirate software, we would rather they pirate ours, and Java in general, than some other competing technology" rather an unusual stance in the software industry. Jared