RE: Script to overcome ORA-54 during DDL

Mark, UL locks once granted are held until released via dbms_lock.release or
the session terminates and therefore would cover multiple commits actions if
that is what the holding process does.

UL locks are also a relatively expensive resource according to the Oracle
documentation and requiring every session to take a share level UL lock on a
table and then release it for OLTP type work would be a lot of overhead
relative to the work being done.

IMHO -- Mark D Powell --


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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bobak, Mark
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 3:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Script to overcome ORA-54 during DDL


<Caveat:  untested concept>

Seems to me, if you have control over the code base, and you know these =
types of
things will be necessary, you could implement something via DBMS_LOCK.
Any time a DML executes, it could first take a user defined (UL) enqueue
in shared mode.  It does it's DML, commit/rollback, and the UL is =
released
atomically w/ the DML.  Now, you come along and need to do mainenance.
So, you exec dbms_lock on the same UL enqueue, but in exclusive mode,
and if any DML is executing, you'll queue up and wait on that enqueue.
When all pending DML commits/rolls back, you'll get your exclusive
UL lock, and you can do the DDL.  While this is going on, all DML will
queue up, till the exclusive lock clears.  When you're done w/ the
DDL, release the exclusive lock, all DML continues where it left off.

Hmm...just thought of something.  DDL implies commit before and after
the change that it's making.  Would that first commit release the
lock on the UL enqueue?  Hmmm, maybe that's not such a good idea.

I'll have to test it out.....

-Mark

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jeremiah Wilton
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 2:56 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Script to overcome ORA-54 during DDL


Sometimes when trying to perform DDL on really hot objects (heavy
read/DML), I get:

ORA-00054: resource busy and acquire with NOWAIT specified.

I guess this is because you need to obtain a library cache lock in
order to change the object definition.  Since there is no enqueue
mechanism for this resource, you can't just 'lock table ... in
exclusive mode;'  All that gives you is a DML lock.

One way to avoid this is to write a PL/SQL routine that uses DBMS_SQL
and spins trying to run the DDL, stopping only when it succeeds.  This
seems to work most of the time.

Does anyone have a script for doing the above that they would like to
share?

Please don't tell me to just use dbms_redefinition.  That is
unnecessarily complex when the above technique can be used instead.

Thanks

--
Jeremiah Wilton
http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
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