Re: Same old story, windows vs Linux

  • From: Dan Norris <dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Ted Coyle <Ted.Coyle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:24:18 -0700 (PDT)

I think both speed and concurrency could be very different between x86 and 
other platform architectures.

As for downsides to using different platforms for non-production and 
production, here's a start (I'm sure there are countless others, but I think 
these are the major ones, in no particular order):
Platform-specific issues or bugsPerformance (obviously)Spreading yourself "too 
thin"--by this, I mean that if you can't focus on a single platform, you'll end 
up knowing a little about many things instead of becoming an expert at 
one.Actually, the list isn't as long as I thought, but #3 is a pretty big one 
in my opinion. I'm sure there are others, but these are the most critical 
considerations I can think of on a Monday morning.

Dan

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From: Ted Coyle <Ted.Coyle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Dan Norris <dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ORACLE-L <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:45:44 AM
Subject: RE: Same old story, windows vs Linux







 

 


 




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Dan,
 



Yes, this is exactly what I meant.
 



  
 



“The SMP scalability of SPARC, PARISC and RS6000 have gone quite

a bit beyond what mainstream x86 does currently.”
 



By SMP scalability, do you mean concurrency, speed, or both?
 



As example, what would the downside be of developing on Windows and

running AIX in production?
 



  
 



  
 



  
 



Ted
 










 




















From: Dan Norris

[mailto: dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ] 


Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007

11:03 PM


To: Ted Coyle


Cc: ORACLE-L


Subject: Re: Same old story,

windows vs Linux
 








  
 











Hi Ted, 





I figured that question would come up. I'm not going to argue that different

hardware platforms offer the same or similar performance characteristics. The

SMP scalability of SPARC, PARISC and RS6000 have gone quite a bit beyond what

mainstream x86 does currently. 





However, that said, I still don't think I'd recommend those architectures to a

windows shop. Maybe to a firm that has linux expertise since at least they're

in the ballpark, but they'd still need a plan including hiring some talent.

That is, if they're taking on a project that requires the large SMP

capabilities of these platforms, then they should consider hiring some help to

manage it. If they're doing anything that doesn't require large SMP, then they

should be able to stay with their current (presumably x86) platform of choice

and keep on chugging. 





Is that what your question was getting at, or did I miss it completely?





Dan
 







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From: Ted Coyle < oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx >


To: dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;

niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx; adar666@xxxxxxxxxxxx


Cc: ORACLE-L <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>


Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:28:57 PM


Subject: RE: Same old story, windows vs Linux
 







What about Windows/Linux vs. AIX and

Solaris….?
 



 
 



Ted
 



 
 



 
 



 
 




















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oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Dan Norris


Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007

11:31 AM


To: niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx;

adar666@xxxxxxxxxxxx


Cc: ORACLE-L


Subject: Re: Same old story,

windows vs Linux
 








 
 











I agree with Niall--I

have seen both platforms perform equally well given the right parameters. 





For me, though, one of the biggest considerations would be to evaluate where

your system admin's skills are. If your organization has equal skills in both

windows and linux, then I guess this factor won't matter much. However, if

you're in a windows shop with no command-line OSes in the data center, then you

may not be well-equipped to install, configure, and, perhaps most importantly

of all, tune a linux system. Same argument can be made swapping the OSes as

well. 





Just a thought--the "best" platform for your environment will often

be the one that you know how to run the best. 





Dan
 



  
 









































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