On http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/datamodeler/index.html they are also 'advertising' it just as they do for Application Express (upper right corner), as a "Free Download". I think all of the 'free products' have the same download marker, while the products that do require a separately purchased license you need to download differently, but I have been wrong many times before in the not so distant past (and even further). -- -- Bill Ferguson On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Reardon, Bruce (RTABBAY)<Bruce.Reardon@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Re SQL Developer cost, see > http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/datamodeler/html/data > modelerfaq.html#free > > HTH, > Bruce Reardon -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l