Re: Re: another failed attempt at database independence
- From: "Rick Ricky" <ricks12345@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: srinivas.chintamani@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:03:31 -0400
the consultants aren't necessarily paid that much. Accenture or IBM may
charge you $350/hour, but use someone they got off the job boards and pay
them $95,000/year. The consultants may be making less than you. Consulting
is basically just glorified temp work. There are not alot of true expert
consultants(like some of the people on this list). Oracle charges $400/hour
or more for people I can tell are just average. They are not paid anywhere
near what they cost.
just go look at dice. IBM who does alot of this high end high priced
consulting is always hiring. They have advertisements up all the time. I
know from calls with Accenture that they don't pay anything special.
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Srinivas Chintamani <
srinivas.chintamani@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
> When a lot of people feel the consultants don't put in quality work, why is
> it that they are still hired and paid exorbitant amounts?
>
> -Srinivas.
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Jared Still <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>
>>> From: kathy duret <katpopins21@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: wbfergus@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:00:00 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Subject: Re: another failed attempt at database independence
>>> Not just the government.
>>>
>>> ...
>>> We had EBS "expert" tell management we had to install mailx to send email
>>> and attachments that 12i couldn't do it. I spent alot of time fixing
>>> Workflow and getting the email to work for our "expert implementators" then
>>> document the process for our "experts"
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, there are alot of good people out there.
>>> I blame management or decision makers for not checking their facts and
>>> living by buzzwords.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> I had to do the same thing a few months ago.
>>
>> Consultants could not get the workflow mailer to work.
>>
>> I located the ML document with instructions to set it up, the doc is very
>> well written and the
>> procedure is pretty simple.
>>
>> When working through the doc, it became apparent why the mailer didn't
>> work.
>>
>> The consultants had typed in the example input, word for word!
>>
>> Things like domain name: "mydomain.com"
>>
>> I kid you not.
>>
>> Needless to say, 10 minutes later it was all working.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jared Still
>> Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Srinivas Chintamani
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