RE: RAC cold backup - alternative

  • From: "Mark W. Farnham" <mwf@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <RASTEIN@xxxxxxxx>, <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:44:46 -0400

Okay, so IF you're doing pulse updates, presumably you slug in a day's or
week's worth of data. Then you possibly rebuild some aggregates or do
summarizations on the newly arrived time based data, possibly update your
statistics and get ready to hand the datawarehouse over to the users for a
reporting window, but you want a backup before you turn them loose. You
don't want to archive the big pulse update because you figure you could just
apply the cycle to the previous cold backup if the wheels fall off. You
don't want to endure the overhead of archiving the massive periodic update.

*THIS IS NOT AN ANALYSIS OF WHETHER THIS IS A GOOD STRATEGY, NOR AN
ENDORSEMENT OF THIS STRATEGY. I'm just telling you the environment I'm
presuming leading up to the following:

IF you're in that usual mode for data warehouses, then you have protracted
periods where you're only reporting and not generating much redo anyway. So
AFTER all the massive updates are in, switch to archivelog mode, do a hot
backup any which way you want, being sure to cycle out that last redo log to
archive that might be needed to create a coherent recovery set, and then
flip archivelog mode off. Actually you might want to leave archiving on
until just before you enter the period of mass updates, since there will be
little or nothing new, but that is up to you and your perception of
archivelog mode overhead during your reporting window.

Figuring out the ins and outs of making this airtight with your particular
backup/recovery methodology is up to you, but you can definitely make it
work with at least several different methods of backup. I realize this is
not exactly what you asked, but I'd bet a dozen crullers (in a legal
jurisdiction for such wagers) that is what you want to do. Oh - and your
users get access sooner this way, too.

Regards,

mwf

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steiner, Randy
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:01 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RAC cold backup


Is anyone doing a cold backup on a grid?  If so, how are you shutting
down the database in the rman script?  Putting Shutdown in the script
only stops one instance.  The best I can come up with is to run srvctl
stop database before the script.

I have a data warehouse with no archive logs, so an online backup is
out.

Thanks
Randy

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