RE: RAC 11gR1 changing control files

That's the question that I answered.

It won't work, cause Oracle will insist that all RAC instances have the same 
value for control_files parameter.

If you check the manual page for control_files parameter, it's a documented 
restriction:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e17110/initparams035.htm#REFRN10021

-Mark

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of CRISLER, JON A
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:08 PM
To: Chitale, Hemant Krishnarao
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; EAGLESTON, BRENDA
Subject: RE: RAC 11gR1 changing control files

Actually, what I was trying to describe is the following process, and get 
opinions if it will work:

1) alter parameter "control_files" scope=spfile to remove 1 of the control 
files- there will still be at least 3 left.
2) shutdown and restart each instance of a RAC cluster one at a time, in a 
rolling fashion.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chitale, Hemant Krishnarao [mailto:Hemant.Chitale@xxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:57 PM
To: CRISLER, JON A
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: RAC 11gR1 changing control files

Interesting idea.  Drop a controlfile in a rolling manner.

Unfortunately, it won't work.  The controlfile is, in a sense, "outside" of the 
database  --- it actually allows the Instance to identify the physical 
components of the Database.  Thus, there is no "DROP CONTROLFILE" or "ALTER 
CONTROLFILE OFFLINE" command.

You will have to shutdown all the instances of the database, edit the parameter 
file and restart the instances.  
Ouch !

  
Hemant K Chitale 

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of CRISLER, JON A
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:24 AM
To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RAC 11gR1 changing control files

I ran into a situation where we have 5 control files, and one of these control 
files is going into a ASM diskgroup used for online redo logs.  We are also 
using a storage snapshot product (NetApp Snapshot Manager for Oracle).  
Normally the product would not get a snapshot on a volume that only has redo, 
but since it has a control file on it, we are then forced to track snapshots 
for redo, which is very expensive in resources.  The fix is to drop the control 
file from that ASM diskgroup.

Which brings me to my question: can I change the control_file parameter to omit 
that specific control file (I will still have 4 other copies) and bounce the 
instances in a rolling fashion? Or do all instances have to be shutdown so that 
the control file parameter is always consistent ? 
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