Good page. Just don't like being adamant if I am not very sure. Joel Patterson Database Administrator joel.patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx x72546 904 727-2546 ________________________________ From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:46 PM To: Patterson, Joel Cc: andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx; robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Query Database while shutdown in progress On 6/27/07, Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx <Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: However, (Not from Oracle), I have heard oracle has gotten a lot better with abort - as in not as dangerous or fearsome. I just like synchronizing all the file headers etc.... Does killing the session stop the rollback? If not, then monitoring the alert log for the offending user is nice but doesn't save very many minutes. See http://www.speakeasy.org/~jwilton/oracle/shutdown-abort-bad.html -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist