RE: Pssssst! Hey buddy....

I have 11R1 but don't have that file.  Sorry

Man and I was hoping to trade some of my off shorers for yours.

Mine left a production problem sit for 30 hours while they called me at 2:00 am 
for a development issue that wasn't an issue.  Or could it be the time they 
tried to delete duplicates and did a cartisan product on a 240 million row 
table , or ... I have a million of them.... 

As Henny Youngman would have said if he were a dba... take my offshorers ... 
please!

K

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Goulet, Richard <Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Goulet, Richard <Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Pssssst!  Hey buddy....
To: tim@xxxxxxxxx, kjped1313@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: "oracle-l" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:29 AM



 
That's what you get when you outsource your DBA's.  
BTDT, was actually "part of the problem" at one time.
 
Dick 
Goulet 
Senior Oracle 
DBA/NA Team Lead 
PAREXEL International 
 



From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim 
Gorman
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:05 AM
To: 
kjped1313@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: oracle-l
Subject: Re: Pssssst! Hey 
buddy....


<rant>
Unfortunately, the reality is more mundane but no 
less "entertaining".  We have a new team of outsource DBAs who are finding 
all sorts of difficulty in installing the contents of the PRO*C demos on our 
development system.  First, although I have access to the Oracle account in 
this dev environment, I have described the issue, complete with links and 
references to MyOracleSupport notes, as well as links to the software download 
sites on OTN.  Confusion, wariness, more explanations, more 
confusion???  Then, after they agreed to do the install, they said they 
were "looking for the CDs".  So, I reminded them that I had provided links 
to the downloadable zip archives, and went ahead and downloaded the necessary 
zip file for the "Examples" CD and placed it in a staging area on the target 
server.  Then, they sent an email stating that the zip file was "not 
readable by oracle" and proceeded to download the wrong version (11gR2 instead 
of 11gR1) into a filesystem which filled it beyond 95% full.  Alarms went 
off, sysadmins went wild, fingers were pointed, etc, etc, etc.  So, after I 
pointed out the ease by which 777 permissions can be applied to the zip file I 
had downloaded safely and correctly, they then decided to install the demo 
files 
onto another server -- to which our team does not have access.  Since the 
whole exercise was brought about by our team's need for the demo PRO*C 
makefiles, it seemed reasonable to point out that installing the demos onto a 
database server to which we do not have access was a bit ... unnecessary.  
Last I heard, one of the outsource DBAs was complaining that "they had only 
been 
there a week" and that they did not have X-Windows software on their PC for 
running the Oracle installer.  Which I guess is understandable until you 
remember that X-Windows has only been a requirement for all Oracle DBAs since 
... maybe ... 1812 or so...
</rant>

So, I felt it might be 
easier to obtain the desired makefiles this way........


Kellyn 
Pedersen wrote: 

  
    
    
      
        Why do I have the eerie feeling that Tim's request 
        involves a dark alley and a truck with stolen electronics along with 
        this file? :)


        ~Kellyn 

--- On Mon, 5/3/10, Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        
From: 
          Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 
          Pssssst! Hey buddy....
To: "oracle-l" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 
          Monday, May 3, 2010, 3:39 PM


          Can anyone spare a copy of the file 
          "$ORACLE_HOME/precomp/demo/proc/demo_proc.mk" for 11gR1?  We're 
          trying to get some DBAs to install the "Examples" CD archive, which 
          includes the PRO*C demos, but it is turning out to be a more 
laborious 
          task than *anyone* could imagine...

If you do respond, please 
          do so off the list?

Thanks in advance!
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