This profile forced users to change their password upon first login in 8i. In 9i it is not forcing that behavior. I have looked on metalink and read the notes 114930.1, 1079860.1, and 162818.1. Does anybody know why or has had the same experience? PROFILE FAILED_LOGIN_ATTEMPTS 5 PROFILE PASSWORD_LIFE_TIME 90 PROFILE PASSWORD_REUSE_TIME UNLIMITED PROFILE PASSWORD_REUSE_MAX 5 PROFILE PASSWORD_VERIFY_FUNCTION DEFAULT PROFILE PASSWORD_LOCK_TIME 9999 PROFILE PASSWORD_GRACE_TIME 5 Thanks, David Ehresmann -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l