RE: Problem with LMT and ASSM

  • From: Wittenmyer Joel - CO <WITTENMYERJ@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'salem.ghassan@xxxxxxxxx'" <salem.ghassan@xxxxxxxxx>, Markus.Kuehn@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:28:31 -0500

My first thought also.  And if you use 'parallel append' you can actually
hear the space being chewed up :-) as each parallel process gets it's own
extent to devour.

 

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On Behalf Of Ghassan Salem
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:26 AM
To: Markus.Kuehn@xxxxxxxxx
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Subject: Re: Problem with LMT and ASSM

 

Markus,
when you INSERT, do you do it with /*+ APPEND*/? if so (it looks from your
post, but just wanted to verify), then
the space deleted will not get used, as it is below the HWM, hence not used
by the insert in direct mode. 
The best way to do it, if possible, is to partition the table in a way that
allows you to DROP the partitions instead of deleting the records. This will
really free the space used, and hence let the INSERT /+ append*/ reuse it. 

rgds

On 6/27/06, Markus Kuehn <Markus.Kuehn@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:Markus.Kuehn@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:


Hello members,

sorry, forgot the subject.

We have a problem with locally managed tablespaces and segment space
management auto on 9.2.0.6 <http://9.2.0.6>  on AIX 5.2. The problem
follows:

We created a table in a tablespace with extent management local
autoallocate and segment space management auto. Every day about 150.000
records are inserted into this table. Records which are older than 90 days
are deleted from the table. The delete-job runs at 17:00, the insert-job
runs at 00:30, so that they are seperated from each other. No updates are
taking place in this table. The first inserts created  64 extents with 128 
blocks and 1 MB each. After those extents went full, 120 extents with 1024
blocks and 8 MB each were created. Now, as they went full too, extents with
8192 blocks and 64 MB each are created. Due to the deletes the lower 
extents from extent id 0 to extent id 90 are freed but are not reused.
Instead new extents are created. This will lead to a tablespace covering
all available disk-space, which is not really satisfying. An "alter table 
move" to a different tablespace and "alter tablespace move" to the original
tablespace reduces the number of used extents. But after some time we run
in the same problem again.

Anyone out there has a solution or work-around for this type of situation. 

Regards
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Markus Kühn
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