RE: Patch 9.2.07 for Linux

Usually I don't reply to Mladen's rants, because I can't do anything about 
them.  :)  This time, however, he took my name in vain so maybe I should see if 
I can use some of those skills that those of us that are parents need to use to 
deal with teenagers to calm him down.  ;)

Firstly, let me make it clear that I don't believe there is anyone on this 
list, either using an Oracle employee ID like I do or using a private email 
address, that can comment officially from the corporation perspective on emails 
such as this.  I know of a few Oracle employees on this list, and I'm sure that 
there are others that I don't know of, who monitor the list purely and simply 
to provide technical input and help out where they can.  That's all I can do, 
and it's all any of us can do.  There are official channels for making comments 
like the ones Mladen has, and getting responses on them.  This list is clearly 
not one of them.

Having said that, I'm certainly not saying that Mladen shouldn't make comments 
like this here.  One of the real benefits I've always seen in a list such as 
this is finding out from other users what sorts of problems they're facing, and 
how they worked around those problems.  It is a totally legitimate tool for 
problem solving in the wider Oracle community.

Coming back to why I haven't been responding to many emails on this list, it 
stems from two main causes.  Firstly, as Nuno already commented I've been 
dealing with a health issue.  I damaged my back (again) in late March, which 
finally resulted in a second round of back surgery at the end of July.  During 
the intervening period, it's been difficult to even keep up with my real job 
let alone looking at emails.  Secondly, at about the same time, I moved into a 
new role at Oracle, working in RAC development.  Since I had to suddenly learn 
a lot of stuff that I hadn't needed to know in detail in my previous role, all 
the brain cells I have for Oracle work are now totally full with 10.2 RAC.  
Anything earlier than that has fallen off the LRU end of the BCBC (brain cell 
buffer chain).  Once you guys catch up with me and start using 10.2 in anger, I 
might be able to help out more.  ;)

 
Pete
 
"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
 
"Oh no, it's not.  It's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mladen Gogala
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2005 1:39 PM
To: oracle-l
Subject: Patch 9.2.07 for Linux

I have just been hit by the bug 3083560 which will be fixed in Oracle 9.2.0.7, 
if
Oracle support is to be believed (and frequently, it is not). There was also a 
debate
about the qualities of Linux, despite its apparent shortcomings (no streams, no
reliable printing - CUPS is a joke, tuning kernel is a black art, not supported 
by
books similar to the Adrian Cockroft's, variables like like freelim, freegoal,
borrowlim and growlim don't exist and many other little things that I am 
reluctant
to start explaining to Linux aficionados) in which I mentioned the qualities of 
Linux.
I don't know who's fooling who, but Oracle is using Linux users as free beta 
testers.
Support sucks. I received a confidential email in June, informing me that 
9.2.0.7
for Linux is "packaged and almost ready to ship". The person who wrote that 
email, a
member of this list, lied shamelessly. Patch was released for Solaris and 
Windows, both
32-bit, and for no other platform. The patchset was released on 7/21/05. What is
the deal with the other platforms? Is Oracle Corp. development too incompetent 
to
synchronize important patchsets? Do they need us to do some QA? WTF is going on?
I am really ticked off now that I've been awaken for the n-th time because of 
the wondrous
software quality of Oracle 9.2. Does anybody really know when Oracle plans to 
release
this patchset? What will it take to persuade them? The quality of the software 
recently
produced by the Oracle Corp. is beneath contempt, probably as a result of 
outsourcing to
Elbonia. There used to be Oracle person which participated in this list, Peter 
Sharman,
but he is not participating for a very long time. There are also few members of 
this list
which participate as private persons, under various nicknames.
Is there anybody from Oracle to address this outrage and tell us about the 
plans for making
Oracle 9.2 as reliable as beta version of 7.3 used to be?
Such haughty and condescending behavior used to be practiced by DEC. One of the 
companies
that I used to work for switched to PostgresSQL (Wang Trading). At the time, I 
thought
that Oracle is worth sticking with. Now, I am no longer that convinced. I 
believe its
the time to start learning MySQL. Oracle will inevitably go down if it 
continues  behaving
like this. The mighty have fallen before. It seems to stimulate evolution. What 
Oracle needs
is a dose of intelligent design.

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