RE: Password for sys, system account - Uncooperative client

Yes, I am staff and many times Chief of Cleanup after a consultant
leaves.  Mostly with a consultant I'll answer any question they ask
which includes running any select statement they want.  Recently we
started a project with Matrix-One.  Their consultant wanted to know the
values set in the init.ora file for the db they would be using.  I sent
him a copy of that file after he asked.  I'd say that the amount of
cooperation you get is proportional to the amount of respect you give
the staff folks and how much they learn to trust you.  It also helps to
be flexible in your wants and needs.  Mr. Lampkin from Matrix-One is
having a good time because he spent the time to get acquainted with us
and how we like things run.  He also explained why he would appreciate
certain priviledges.  Some have been granted, some have not.  In either
case we've learned to cooperate with each other.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Ranko Mosic [mailto:ranko.mosic@xxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Goulet, Dick
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Password for sys, system account - Uncooperative client

Sorry about the tone, it is just my budding personality.=20
Thanks Stephane, but it did not work.=20
Dick, I need to check configuration that client set up for us.=20
There is always tug of war between staff DBA's and consultants,
especially here.
I guess you are staff DBA, right ?=20
Regards, Ranko.

On 6/9/05, Goulet, Dick <DGoulet@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Assuming that you made the request of the client using the same tone
as
> here, I'm not surprised.  Why do you need an account with such
> priviledges?  In general NO one outside of the DBA group here has
access
> to SYS or SYSTEM, including internal folks.
>=20
> Dick Goulet
> Senior Oracle DBA
> Vicor Corporation
> Andover, MA USA=3D20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ranko Mosic
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:27 AM
> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Password for sys, system account - Uncooperative client
>=20
> Hi all,=3D3D20
> I need password for account  with select dictionary privileges -
client
> is=3D3D
> =3D3D20
> not too cooperative.=3D3D20
>=20
> Regards, Ranko.
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