RE: PL/SQL Development Tool Of Choice
- From: "Taylor, Chris David" <ChrisDavid.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'oracle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <oracle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:59:32 -0500
I talked to Jeff Smith when he was with Quest about the 'out of the box'
options Toad uses.
A lot of apps default to a minimalist configuration out of the box, whereas
Toad seems to go the other direction - seems like they wanted people to be able
to see/use ALL the functionality when it was first installed which gets
overwhelming even for a regular Toad user. I'm always having to go in and
reconfigure stuff when I upgrade to a major version.
For example, I had my Toad 10.x setup nice and clean with shortcut keys the way
I wanted them, window layouts, toolbars etc.
So I upgrade to Toad 11 and all that went out the window so I asked how to
import my Toad 10 settings and they told me how and it worked - *EXCEPT* that
there was no way (that I could find) to re-enable some of the new Toad 11
features - the menu choices were gone based on the settings I imported from
Toad 10 *and* the new features didn't appear in the customization settings -
ultimately I had to reinstall Toad 11 and configure it manually. Not a huge
problem, but time consuming. (I can't remember the specific new functionality
I was trying to re-enable though and I probably haven't even used it)
Chris Taylor
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-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Norman Dunbar
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:48 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: PL/SQL Development Tool Of Choice
On 18/07/12 16:11, Kellyn Pot'vin wrote:
> Now I have to say, and this goes for most tools, that when I stated I would
> like to see TOAD go on a diet, I meant all the extra calls it makes to
> provide the user every piece of data at their fingertips, even when all they
> want is one, small bit of information.
> Let's say a developer is in TOAD and wants to see the name of table 'XYZ'.
> When they click on it, TOAD also gathers for them, (just in case) all the
> column information, size information, extents, dependencies, partitions,
> constraints, etc. This kind of added querying has a cost overall to the
> performance of the data dictionary and to a performance tuning DBA, if I
> start seeing waits on my TAB$, ICOL$, SEG$, IND$, etc. tables, then I'm going
> to want to know why this has started.
> ....
I've forwarded a copy of Kellyn's email to the Toad Developers for comment.
Hope you don't mind. Knowing them, if there is a problem, they will fix it PDQ.
Cheers,
Norm.
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