RE: Oracle out the door

OH, what a case of dajavu!!  I was at a company previously that to
reduce costs had me do a source selection amongst the Open Source crowd.
For sure, if you can have your way, choose PostgreSql or EnterpriseDB
since it ports the easiest.  But in the end Management will find
SQL*Server just as expensive as Oracle, just they nickel & dime you to
death vs hitting you in the face with the telephone pole.  MySQL is just
another way of putting money into Oracle's pocket since they now own the
transactional engine used, InnoDB.  You'll also have fun finding folks
to work with these other DB's and you may find that your application
vendors will balk at either MySql or PostgreSql.   SQL*Server folks seem
to think that their special and scarce so they want a premium.  MySql
are sort of a dime a dozen, but they sure can crank out some trash in a
hurry, and there are few who have PostgreSql on their resume.  In the
end we migrated the trial application back onto Oracle & sucked it up.

 

One thing your boss should consider is cutting down on the number of
servers that your supporting.  Many a database instance is created
because someone thought it should be.  Taking a few moments may lead to
merging instances into larger ones and/or having multiple instances on
fewer servers.  That can reduce license costs as once a cpu is licensed
it does not matter if it's handling one to 20 instances.  The cost is
the same.  And lastly pull that sales droid in & read him/her the riot
act.  They can often come up with interesting ways to help, like they
did at my previous company where they declared a number of databases as
being development only and consequently putting in legal contract form
that they did not need to be supported.  Saved the company several
thousands in annual renewal fees.  It also helps to have a "signed"
purchase order on the table for DB2 or SQL*server where they can see it.
Makes for some very lively discussion since at that point they do not
want to loose you as a customer.  My old CIO was a master at these types
of negotiations, was a real treat to watch him make Oracle sales droids
squirm, HP droids as well.

 

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:40 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Oracle out the door

 

Company I work for just announced that we're going to convert all but 2
of our 89 Oracle databases to either SQL Server, MYSQL,  or PostgreSQL.
This is due to the high licensing cost.  I'm bummed. 







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