Re: Oracle Standard Edition & RAC
- From: Wolfgang Breitling <breitliw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gorbyx@xxxxxxxxx, oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:58:18 -0700
At 05:44 PM 1/4/2007, Alex Gorbachev wrote:
A single node 4 CPU SE should scale even better than 2 node x 2 CPU SE
RAC so using SE RAC for scalability is luxury and company doing so has
way too much money.
Am I missing something here? The Oracle licensing cost should be the
same and 2 dual-cpu boxes should be cheaper than a quad. That's what
RAC is for me: a beancounter's scalability solution.
Availability? Well, besides Oracle licensing, HA environment requires
fair amount of investment if it's really HA and not just "reported" HA
because of RAC.
If company with HA requirements can't justify cost of EE and RAC
option in addition to the infrastructure behind then they really have
to think about changing their business model and/or IT architecture.
I just can't buy the RAC HA argument. The only outage RAC protects
you from is a server failure, not database failures due to human
error or software bugs. And the probability of that (server failure)
is probably only increased by running RAC with all its complexity.
Quoting from a list of "unpleasant truths" published by Edsger
Dijkstra in 1975! (from a recent post on the Oaktable network):
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability.
Of course the beancounter's scalability solution provides a
self-fulfilling prophesy in itself - those cheap pizza boxes used to
make RAC solutions economical are more likely to fail than an
expensive multi-cpu server. Sometimes you DO get what you pay for.
Regards
Wolfgang Breitling
Centrex Consulting Corporation
www.centrexcc.com
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A single node 4 CPU SE should scale even better than 2 node x 2 CPU SE RAC so using SE RAC for scalability is luxury and company doing so has way too much money.
Availability? Well, besides Oracle licensing, HA environment requires fair amount of investment if it's really HA and not just "reported" HA because of RAC. If company with HA requirements can't justify cost of EE and RAC option in addition to the infrastructure behind then they really have to think about changing their business model and/or IT architecture.
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