RE: Oracle Options

Well, it helps to have those higher up on the food chain admit to Oracle
directly that they believe the license compliance is out of order.
Otherwise known as inviting the audit, or bending over.  If you get my
meaning.

Now as bad as an audit would appear, the License Compliance Services
(LMS) folks at Oracle make it rather painless.  It's what sales does
afterwards that can be painful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquez, Chris [mailto:cmarquez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:41 PM
To: Goulet, Dick; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Oracle Options

>>Having been through an Oracle audit

I have see two reference to this on this list.
How does one become the lucky (victim) of an Oracle audit?

Chris Marquez
Oracle DBA


-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Goulet, Dick
Sent: Thu 5/19/2005 12:25 PM
To: John.Hallas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Oracle Options
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Having been through an Oracle audit, you can safely install any and all
options, if you want, without penalty provided that you are not actively
using them.  There are some that install without your consent because
they are "needed" by the base product.  Also if you do a quick install
they all get installed by default.  Thankfully Oracle appears to
understand that and not hold you responsible.  Now for some options,
like partitioning, they can query the data dictionary and tell that your
using it or not.  Others like Context are more difficult in which case
they'll ask the CIO to sign a letter stating that your not using it.
It's on the honor system for sure & as it has been explained to me
several times by Oracle folk your free to "experiment" with the options
for 90 days after install and so long as you do not use them for a
production purpose.   Violate either of those & they want their pound of
flesh.  And when you look at it, why should they not leave those doors
open.  If you play with the option, and find it valuable you'll probably
want to keep it & pay for it.  It's sorta like free money to them.

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hallas, John, Tech
Dev
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:46 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: FW: Oracle Options



I understood that Partitioning works out at roughly =3D3DA310k per CPU.
You can install EE without installing  Partitioning so I still see it as
=3D3D
a an licensable option.
If it is installed you owe Oracle the money basically, whether you are =
=3D
=3D3D
using it or not.

There is a means of removing partitioning though without a full =3D3D
re-install (there is no de-install option within the installer). However
=3D3D
I cannot find details on Metalink (surprise, surprise) or even Google.

It is definitely there though. I saw it only about 3 weeks ago. We =3D3D
decided not to run it though as we were a bit concerned about the impact
=3D3D
on the existing system.

Funnily enough even on a non partitioned installed installation there =
=3D
=3D3D
are partitioned tables. Weird hey.

John





-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas Day
Sent: 18 May 2005 15:56
To: Oracle-L
Subject: Re: Oracle Options

No.  If you need the data in the database then do a full export, drop
the database, de-install Oracle, re-install Oracle with the options
that you want, create a database and import your data.

On the other hand, you might question why you want the options dropped.

As I understand it, partitioning is available only with the Enterprise
Edition (EE).  If you have the Enterprise Edition, then you're paying
for the Enterprise Edition whether or not you use partitioning.

As always, your milage may varry.  Research the options and find out
if they are priced separately or are just a part of the particular
edition of the Oracle that you are using.  I'm not in procurement so I
don't have these details handy.
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