Re: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c

Just want to say- installed, configured EM12c on my new production server, auto 
deployed to my testing targets in parallel with my existing EM 10g environment. 
 Love the solid documentation, the little to no issues during installation/auto 
agent deployment app, LOVE the SQL Monitoring interface and some of the new 
features I've discovered so far....
I have the other DBA's in testing it out with three main developers who need to 
monitor what they do in dev/test.  They seem quite impressed so far with the 
new features I've showed them and are quickly coming up to speed with the 
changes to the GUI vs. the 10g version.
Come on guys, I'll race you to production... :P
 
Kellyn Pot'Vin
Sr. Database Administrator and Developer
DBAKevlar.com

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From: Peter Sharman <pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: jo.holvoet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Peter Sharman <pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c

Jo

Unfortunately I can't say anything more than what is said in the note:

"Enterprise Manager 12c Porting Dates are still to be announced.  Please keep 
checking this note for the latest information.  As soon as dates are announced, 
they will be posted here."

Pete

Pete Sharman
Principal Product Manager
Enterprise Manager Product Suite
33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61262924095 | | Fax: +61262925183 | | Mobile: +61404005744  

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

"Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA



-----Original Message-----
From: Holvoet, Jo [mailto:jo.holvoet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, 21 October 2011 7:58 PM
To: Peter Sharman
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c

Hi Pete,

Are there plans to support further versions/flavours of Linux x86-64 ? We're 
currently running both SLES10 and SLES11 (both supported for EM GC 11 agents) 
but EM 12c currently only supports SLES11 so upgrading is not an option at this 
point ...

mvg / regards,
Jo Holvoet



-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Peter Sharman
Sent: vrijdag 21 oktober 2011 8:22
To: Peter Sharman; SUzzell@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Peter Sharman
Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c

One more thing - there is a MOS note on this that says it's published external 
so you should be able to see it - 793512.1, Release Schedule of Current 
Enterprise Manager Releases and Patch Sets.

Pete

Pete Sharman
Principal Product Manager
Enterprise Manager Product Suite
33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61262924095 | | Fax: +61262925183 | | Mobile: +61404005744  

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

"Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Sharman 
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 3:20 PM
To: SUzzell@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Peter Sharman
Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c

Took me longer to get back online than I thought, but basically if you login to 
MOS and click on the certification tab, enter a product of Enterprise Manager 
Base Platform - OMS, a release of 12.1.0.1.0 and you'll see the OMS is 
currently supported on Linux x86 and Linux x86-64.  Obviously I can't comment 
on expected release dates, so you'll just need to keep an eye on the 
certification search.

Pete

Pete Sharman
Principal Product Manager
Enterprise Manager Product Suite
33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61262924095 | | Fax: +61262925183 | | Mobile: +61404005744  

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

"Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Sharman 
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 8:12 AM
To: SUzzell@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Peter Sharman
Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c

Stephan

Are you talking about the repository or agents?  There is a MOS note that 
highlights what's available, but I'm literally on my way out the door to the 
next stage of the Australian launch so I don't have time to find the number for 
you now.  Let me know if you can't find it and when I'm back online I'll chase 
it down for you.

Pete

Pete Sharman
Principal Product Manager
Enterprise Manager Product Suite
33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61262924095 | | Fax: +61262925183 | | Mobile: +61404005744  

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

"Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA



-----Original Message-----
From: Uzzell, Stephan [mailto:SUzzell@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 7:45 AM
To: Peter Sharman; nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx; Oracle-L
Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c

Am I understanding correctly - this is linux only for now?

Any ideas when it will be available for Windows?

Stephan Uzzell

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Peter Sharman
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October, 2011 16:28
To: nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx; Oracle-L
Cc: Peter Sharman
Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c

Part of the 12c upgrade.

As for migrating to 11g, I simply can't recall that now - those brain cells are 
long gone.  However, if the upgrade path was a single repository then it should 
definitely have kept your history.  If not then I think you were on your own.

Of course, the obvious answer is to can your upgrade to 11g project and so 
straight to 12c.  ;)

That's doable from the latest 10g release (10.2.0.5) or directly from 11g of 
course.

Pete

Pete Sharman
Principal Product Manager
Enterprise Manager Product Suite
33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61262924095 | | Fax: +61262925183 | | Mobile: +61404005744  

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

"Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA


-----Original Message-----
From: Upendra N [mailto:nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 1:23 AM
To: Peter Sharman; Oracle-L
Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c


>>  That means you have both running, pre-12c and 12c, each with its 
own agents. As you move the pre-12c agents, you can sync the history as 
part of the move to the 12c repository.

Sync'ing the history - is that a 12c feature or is that available in 11g as 
well? 
I am in the process of upgrading a Production Grid environment from 10.2 to 
11.2. Preserving the history would be great.

-Upendra

CC: development@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:39:52 +1100
To: nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx



Sorry, at the Australian 12c launch, so I just saw this.
If you were doing a one system upgrade, you will be upgrading your existing 
repository, so that keeps everything you had.
If you are doing a two system upgrade, you clone the existing repository, 
leaving the old version with pre-12c agents pointing to it. You can then 
gradually install 12c agents pointing to the new repository.
That means you have both running, pre-12c and 12c, each with its own agents. As 
you move the pre-12c agents, you can sync the history as part of the move to 
the 12c repository.
Pete
On 18/10/2011, at 10:34 PM, Upendra N <nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:






With the EM upgrade, when we re-register the targets do we loose the history of 
the metrics gathered?
Is there a way to preserve the performance metrics history?

-Upendra


> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:56:11 -0700
> From: pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: development@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c
> 
> Glad you re-sent that email, since I don't speak fluent gobbledygook.  :)
> 
> From customers I've spoken to, the main reason people are looking at upgrade 
> rather than a clean installation is purely and simply because they want to 
> keep the history that is currently contained in their repository.  Of course, 
> a clean installation does give you the chance to get rid of a lot of old 
> baggage that you may no longer need, but in general this is more of a 
> business decision than a technical one really.
> 
> Pete
> 
> Pete Sharman
> Principal Product Manager
> Enterprise Manager Product Suite
> 33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA
> Phone: +61262924095 | | Fax: +61262925183 | | Mobile: +61404005744  
> 
> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
> 
> "Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
> Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Bach [mailto:development@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2011 9:42 PM
> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c
> 
> Very odd characters in my list post-not sure where they come from. 
> Sending again with a different email client:
> 
> I'm finding it very interesting that so many of you on this list opt to 
> upgrade their management servers. At my current site we are evaluating 
> if we shouldn't forget about the current deployment and use the 12c 
> upgrade to get do a tech refresh. New OMS, new load balancers, new 
> database (everything). The risk of doing so is considered less than with 
> an upgrade.
> 
> For  those going for the migration from 11.1 or even 10.2, would you 
> mind sharing your reasons for the upgrade? How many targets do people 
> monitor?
> 
> Best regards,
> Martin Bach
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