RE: Oracle Certified Master
- From: Upendra N <nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <william.muriithi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:25:30 -0400
Well.. on top of the $3000, when you add the requirement to take 2 OU classes,
that's another $6000-$7000, it certainly is a ripoff.
-Upendra
> From: william.muriithi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx
> CC: tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:55:27 -0500
> Subject: Re: Oracle Certified Master
>
> Charles,
>
> To some extent, I do think hands-on exams are better/more prestigious than
> paper based exams. They are more dependable in demonstrating a candidate
> competence in real life scenarios. Seriously, most of the paper based exams
> can be easily acquired without even having worked with oracle. You just need
> to read widely. And in my opinion, I think thats precisely the purpose of
> paper based exam. Its no good to also have a narrow and deep understanding of
> a product as some of the peripheral information that may not seem to
> practical may improve a candidate practical skills.
>
> If we can agree on the need of hands-on exams, its then natural to assume a
> price of $200 is not realistic. So, what would be a more realistic price.
> RHCE cost around $700 for a one day exam. A 5 days class + exam cost $3000.
> CCIE, I think cost around $3000 for 2 days exam. I tend to think $1400
> would be fair, may be $2000. From $3000, it start feeling like a rip off.
> Anyway, look like the market can support those prices, so I do not think
> anything is going to change any day soon.
>
> William
> On 2010-09-27, at 8:40 AM, Charles Schultz wrote:
>
> > Tim has hit it on the head. If Oracle University were to drop the price to
> > $200 and relabel it as the Oracle Certified Professional and get rid of the
> > so-called "hands-on" (aka, pay uber bucks for a mediocre OU class)
> > requirements, I think the certification would be a lot more credible,
> > practical and meaningful. As it stands now, it is an obvious pocket-lining
> > racket.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 00:46, Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > The OCM is a 2 day practical exam. You actually have to do things with the
> > database. It's not a multiple choice exam like the other certifications. As
> > a result, it actually proves you can use Oracle for the tested scenarios.
> >
> > The 2 day practical exam is very expensive. Added to this there is a
> > requirement to attend two Oracle University courses, which means the the
> > total cost is very high indeed. Of all the database certifications I think
> > OCM is the most meaningful, but I refuse to pay that sort of money out of
> > my own pocket. If an employer paid for me to do it that would be a
> > different story.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Tim...
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Guillermo Alan Bort <cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I know there is at least one OCM here so I think this question may be
> > answered. I certified OCA 10g back in 2007, OCP 10g in 2009 and am going to
> > certify OCP11g in February 2011. Other than going into other certification
> > paths, I understand that the next step would be OCM. The level of
> > experience and understanding required for OCA and OCP are fairly low (a
> > couple of years of experience and reading one of the certification
> > guidebooks was more than enough) My question goes now to Oracle Certified
> > Master... what does this certification entail? how is the exam? is it just
> > a more complex version of the OCA/OCP exam or are there actual questions to
> > answer? Is there a practical part of the exam? What are the focus points
> > for OCM certification? How has it affected your professional possibilities?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Alan.-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Charles Schultz
>
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