Re: Oracle 24x7 shops and Patches-Upgrades.
- From: "Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: drp4kri@xxxxxxxxx, oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:37 +0000
Oh yes. I once asked a consultant "How long from when you arrived on
site until you were allowed to bounce a 24/7 system?" It was measured
in hours.
On 12/18/06, Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 12/16/06, Dhimant Patel <drp4kri@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Gurus,
>
>
> This seems very common issue but I am confronted with a requirement where
> we need to have 24x7 availability, no exceptions.
> There is no way we can have staging server (for patch testing before
> deploying on the production.) and we need to accommodate
> software upgrades without a planned downtime.
You *might* just possibly be able to upgrade your own in-house written
software without downtime. You *cannot* maintain Oracle software without
downtime - 11g promises the actual shipping of 'rolling upgrades' just about
1/2 a decade after Larry first mentioned them. Until then (and it would be a
brave person who relied on that particular feature in it's first release)
then you cannot achieve 24*7 without either
1) redefining 24*7 to 100% availability within service hours. or possibly
2) never upgrading any part of the system again.
Both options 1 and 2 are perfectly acceptable and professional approaches of
course.
I'm also wondering how shops having 24x7 availability addresses such issues?
>
> Since I'm focused solely on Oracle, I'm not aware if any database server
> allow patching/upgrading without bringing down the server?
> Is any mainstream database server offer such solution?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> DP.
>
--
Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
http://www.orawin.info
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On 12/16/06, Dhimant Patel <drp4kri@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Gurus, > > > This seems very common issue but I am confronted with a requirement where > we need to have 24x7 availability, no exceptions. > There is no way we can have staging server (for patch testing before > deploying on the production.) and we need to accommodate > software upgrades without a planned downtime. You *might* just possibly be able to upgrade your own in-house written software without downtime. You *cannot* maintain Oracle software without downtime - 11g promises the actual shipping of 'rolling upgrades' just about 1/2 a decade after Larry first mentioned them. Until then (and it would be a brave person who relied on that particular feature in it's first release) then you cannot achieve 24*7 without either 1) redefining 24*7 to 100% availability within service hours. or possibly 2) never upgrading any part of the system again. Both options 1 and 2 are perfectly acceptable and professional approaches of course. I'm also wondering how shops having 24x7 availability addresses such issues? > > Since I'm focused solely on Oracle, I'm not aware if any database server > allow patching/upgrading without bringing down the server? > Is any mainstream database server offer such solution? > > > > > Thanks, > DP. > -- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info
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