Re: Oracle 10g Rel.2 taking longer time when SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE
- From: Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:15:46 -0600
I second Niall's questions:
* Why "bounce" every weekend, or on any regular schedule?
* What is wrong with SHUTDOWN ABORT, then STARTUP RESTRICT (a.k.a.
STARTUP FORCE RESTRICT), then SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE as a normal procedure
for getting the database down?
As far as answering your question directly, have you tried enabling
ALTER SYSTEM SET SQL_TRACE = TRUE immediately prior to issuing SHUTDOWN
IMMEDIATE?
Yes, I suggested ALTER SYSTEM SET, not SESSION, because it might be an
unrelated Oracle processes that is performing the work that is delaying
shutdown. If the culprit isn't the session that is issuing the SHUTDOWN
IMMEDIATE itself, then surely it will be either PMON or SMON. As far as
being squeamish about turning SQL tracing on for the entire instance,
what can it hurt if you have enough disk space in the
USER/BACKGROUND_DUMP_DEST directories?
And think of what you'll learn... :-)
...and please feel free to post what you learn back to the list? :-)
Niall Litchfield wrote:
A couple of questions.
Why bounce the databases at all if downtime of a few tens of minutes
matters? My general position is that where a database is being
deliberately taken down on a schedule that isn't for patching etc
something (app/backup strategy etc) is wrong. There could be a good
reason for it, but often there isn't.
If you must bounce the db what is wrong with shutdown abort? You don't
look as if this is for a cold backup so who cares that some recovery
is required?
On 8/11/06, * Syed Jaffar Hussain* <sjaffarhussain@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sjaffarhussain@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hello List,
Since migrated from 9i to 10g, we are facing few new issues.
At our premises, we tend to bounce our database at week-end. In 9i, it
was talking few minutes. But, in 10g Re2.10, it is taking more 20
minutes.
When we shutdown immediate, there would be around 600+ inactive
sessions. In 9i, there was not issues with the number of inactive
session, but, in 10g Rel.2, I believe, some internal changes have
been
made while killing the inactive session. Thats why, it might be taking
longer time.
I am afraid, if this is the case, in case of emergency, we need to
wait 20+ minutes to bring down the database. I dont want to opt for
'shutdown abort' option.
Is anyone had/having the same issue with 'shutdown immediate' in
Oracle 10g Rel.2?
--
Best Regards,
Syed Jaffar Hussain
8i,9i & 10g OCP DBA
Banque Saudi Fransi,
Saudi Arabia
I blog at :http://jaffardba.blogspot.com/
http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/oracle_ace/ace1.html#hussain
<http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/oracle_ace/ace1.html#hussain>
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A couple of questions.
Why bounce the databases at all if downtime of a few tens of minutes matters? My general position is that where a database is being deliberately taken down on a schedule that isn't for patching etc something (app/backup strategy etc) is wrong. There could be a good reason for it, but often there isn't.
If you must bounce the db what is wrong with shutdown abort? You don't look as if this is for a cold backup so who cares that some recovery is required?
On 8/11/06, * Syed Jaffar Hussain* <sjaffarhussain@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sjaffarhussain@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hello List,
Since migrated from 9i to 10g, we are facing few new issues.
At our premises, we tend to bounce our database at week-end. In 9i, it
was talking few minutes. But, in 10g Re2.10, it is taking more 20
minutes.
When we shutdown immediate, there would be around 600+ inactive
sessions. In 9i, there was not issues with the number of inactive
session, but, in 10g Rel.2, I believe, some internal changes have
been
made while killing the inactive session. Thats why, it might be taking
longer time.
I am afraid, if this is the case, in case of emergency, we need to
wait 20+ minutes to bring down the database. I dont want to opt for
'shutdown abort' option.
Is anyone had/having the same issue with 'shutdown immediate' in
Oracle 10g Rel.2?
-- Best Regards, Syed Jaffar Hussain 8i,9i & 10g OCP DBA Banque Saudi Fransi, Saudi Arabia
I blog at :http://jaffardba.blogspot.com/ http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/oracle_ace/ace1.html#hussain <http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/oracle_ace/ace1.html#hussain> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Winners don't do different things. They do things differently." -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l
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