I have found that OOW has lots of fluffy, marketing-driven presentations. Granted, I haven't gone in four years or so. I've attended the Hotsos Symposium, and found that having lots of world-class Oracle experts in one spot (particularly in an informal setting) gives events like MOTS a HUGE advantage over things like OOW. I usually pick up a couple of useful things at OOW, all will require lots more research. Compare that to the 2 - 3 very useful things I will pick up PER SESSION at MOTS... and most of the research, proofs, and validation will already be done and provided in the presentations. The money (way less of it) is much better spent at MOTS. Dallas From: <Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 08/25/2010 08:54 AM Subject: RE: OpenWorld Sent by: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Thanks everyone, I have been to Orlando OUG. I'm convinced that MOTS or OOW, or other OUG is the way to spend my training money. Now I need to create a convincing justification so. I have presenters, (for not OOW I have price), many more subjects, more knowledgeable instructors. I'll ramrod this through either way, but sales is not my forte, so... good justification one liners eh? If not, ok. Thanks for the input thus far. Working on my English, :) Joel Patterson Database Administrator 904 727-2546 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:03 AM To: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: OpenWorld There is an opportunity for training, offsite training also. I was thinking OpenWorld could work just as well if not better. I need to write up justification and benefits for the training. I will have to look at MySQL here shortly I believe for backup/recovery. Can anyone comment on whether OpenWorld would be just as good if not better than a 'course' out there. (I have not really gotten what I wanted out of a lot of courses at oracle itself). If so, then why? Thank you, Joel Patterson Database Administrator 904 727-2546 -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l