RE: Opatch and downtime (was: RE: Metalink and availability)

  • To: <jeremiah@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <mvetmp-ora@xxxxxxxxx>, "Oracle-L Freelists" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:07:40 -0700

Would you still have to take down time in order to run post patch sql
scripts? Or is there around that as well?


Thanks! 
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Subject: Opatch and downtime (was: RE: Metalink and availability)

Vitaliy <mvetmp-ora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
...
> I had a concern about patching ORACLE_HOME while the instance is
running 
> (as described in your article by modifying patch scripts and oracle
make-
> files). I think that replacing shared libraries that oracle binaries
> depend on might cause some side-effects on the running instance(s).

I agree, and the solution is to treat shared libraries like binaries.
The
targets in the makefiles for shared libraries can be modified in a way
similar to the binaries, and you can follow the same procedure of
swapping
them out during a brief downtime.

> It's also not supported as the patch clearly states that all processes

> must be down.

Oracle BDE and support have always supported me in this procedure when I
explained it to them.  Sometimes Oracle will work with you to support
tactics that provide higher availability, even when those tactics don't
follow the exact procedure Oracle has proscribed.

> Instead, I would suggest to pre-stage a copy of patched ORACLE_HOME
that 
> was built on a different server, shutdown all running instances and 
> quickly switch ORACLE_HOMEs then apply DB portion of the upgrade (if
any).


This is also a fine method.  My problem with it has always been that
one-off
patches are often less than a few Mb in size.  My method is very
efficient
and requires a lot less prep time on the part of the DBA.  Copying
around
your 2Gb master ORACLE_HOME is pretty inefficient and time-consuming in
comparison.  However, as you point out, your method leaves you in a
state
that requires very little explanation to support.
--
Jeremiah Wilton
ORA-600 Consulting
http://www.ora-600.net

--- Jeremiah Wilton <jeremiah@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The thing that takes the most time with the CPU patches on Unix is
that
> Opatch patches and relinks one binary at a time serially.  Having the
> database down is completely unnecessary for many of these binaries,
such
> as sqlplus etc.  Furthermore, even running binaries like oracle and 
> tnslsnr can be relinked with the databases open and running, and
staged as
> alternately named files (oracle-new, tnslsnr-new).  You can then move
them
> all into place during a very brief outage for all instances.
> 
> There are a number of tricks that you can use to greatly reduce the
apply
> time for the CPU patches.  Start with the one-off patch apply
guidelines
> in my paper:
> 
> http://www.ora-600.net/articles/stayinalive.pdf

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