OT RE: RMAN Questions -- Please do NOT read. If you do, don't whi ne to me.

Good grief. 
 
I was all prepared to tell Tim that it was a joke he
didn't get and to back away from the uptight pipe, 
and then I find out Mladen -- of all the tongue-in-
cheek, acerbic, sarcastic, witty, cracksters on the whole
damn list apparently didn't "get it" either. 
 
To be clear -- I thought Mladen's post was funny
and right on..like 99.9% of them..and was just
indulging in a bit of camaraderie with him about
those drones that don't understand sarcasm, dry
humor, etc. Christ, I would have thought the "OT"
in the subject heading would at least be a clue. 
 
And then on top of that, Rachel writes to tell me
that virtually no on is going to understand my
humor (but she did...thank God)....and that because
of my mail, the flame war will start again, Jared will
close the list and the free world will come to an end. 
 
*sigh*
 
I am "sorry", but only that it didn't provide the
chuckle (mostly for Mladen) that it was meant
to provide. 
 
(Oh, OK, I guess I am sorry that Tim had to 
 get all suited up in knightly garb to do battle
 with non-existent foe.)
 
Off to the OT list again, shaking my head, 
 
Ross
-----Original Message----- 
From: Tim Gorman [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sun 7/11/2004 4:13 AM 
To: RMohan@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Cc: 
Subject: FW: OT RE: RMAN Questions



Ross, 

You owe Mladen and the entire list an apology for venting your petty 
frustrations in public.  If his post displeases you, please have the 
courtesy -- and the courage -- to discuss it with him directly and 
privately. 

Moreover, Jared doesn't need any suggestions from you on how to run this 
forum.  Unless you are prepared to take responsibility for implementing your

own suggestions, please keep them to yourself. 

-Tim 


------ Forwarded Message 
From: "Mohan, Ross" <RMohan@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
Reply-To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:58:33 -0400 
To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: OT RE: RMAN Questions 

Mladen, 
  
In metaphorically de-referencing a backup thread as a rope, and then 
comparing 
to OPS, RAC, etc. you are possibly forcing the generic, helpless, anonymous 
and 
witless DBA to make a major purchasing decision which could result in 
massive 
failures in his IT department, general business failure, loss of job, 
family, and indeed 
life. 
  
I think you are a very bad and malicious person. You should be passed no 
more 
pointers to metaphors, and set to "moderated" status. Perhaps only then 
you'd 
learn how to behave in a large yet delicate and fragile community of DBAs. 
  
There, I said it. I feel better. 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:gogala@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:gogala@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] 
Sent: Sat 7/10/2004 9:28 PM 
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: RMAN Questions 




On 07/10/2004 06:19:40 PM, Jay wrote: 

> I have few RMAN questions. 

Which can easily be answered from the documentation, but since I have to be 
nice, here we go: 

> 
> 1) What is the difference between 
>       a)restore controlfile; 

Restores controlfile from the backups of controlfile. It doesn't look into 
other backups. 

>       b)restore controlfile from autoback; 

Restores controlfile from any backup which has controlfile autobackup. 

> 
>       a)restore controlfile restores from catalog, how about the next one?


> 
> 
> 2)set maxcorrupt for datafile 3 to 7 
> 
> maxcorrupt parameter will be set to datafile 3,4,5,6 and 7. Am I correct? 
If 
> so, what is the value of maxcorrupt? 

Maximum numer of corrupt blocks for the datafile number 3. A malicious and 
bad 
person would suggest you to read the f***ing manual, but, as I've said 
before, 
I'm a nice guy, so I will not say anything like that. 

> 
> 
> 3)restore database until sequence 100 thread 1; 
> 
> what is "thread 1"? 

A long, thin string, first among the many. Bundled together, you can call 
them a rope, 
OPS or RAC, depending on the material they're made of. 


> 
> Thanks 
> Jay 

Michael from Utah will probably have something to say about your question, 
but please, pay 
no attention. You're welcome. 

-- 
Mladen Gogala 
Oracle DBA 
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